• SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
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    Its much better to pay YouTube so the YouTuber get money based on what the audience wants, and not what the Advertiser want from Youtube.

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    “Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”

    The very definition of racketeering.

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      I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.

      It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!

      I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.

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        Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.

        Never paid YouTube a dime though :)

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          how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.

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    Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).

    Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.

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        In most cases, not all that much. YouTube is mainly useful for getting views and building an audience. It’s a combination of revenue sources like sponsors, merchandise, donations, etc., that really make it worthwhile for creators.

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        Most of the channels I know ask for donations via patreon or other funding platforms. I don’t think youtube pays much except for maybe the top 1% of slop channels.

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          A lot more people make money than the top 1%. The top 1% make big money, but many more may not make a fortune, but it’s a legit side hustle for them. Get into the right niche, and you can do VERY well.

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      I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don’t think there’s a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.

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        Peer tube uses webtorrents, which for many reasons haven’t caught on. It’s still mainly centralized nodes with massive hosting costs. Torrents are the fully decentralized answer.

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        I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.

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          I’ve tried to escape several times with no luck. I’ve deleted my entire history, views, comments, unsubscribed from channels, you name it. Within a day it looks like I never left.

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            Which browser and adlocker are you using?

            I’m not seeing this at on Firefox w ublock origin

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      +1 for Revanced. I did the switch recently and I only regret not having done it earlier. YouTube just have too many ads nowadays, it’s not watchable without an ads blocking solution.

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        revanced strips the ads and you can remove shorts and make other customizations. cab also do the samenforother apps like spotify

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              I downloaded revanced at one point, may even still have it installed. I’ve just found that a shortcut to YouTube.com on my home screen has worked great and I haven’t felt like changing. what makes revanced better?

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                You can remove shorts, sponsor block built it, window player, background player, can change how the player works (double tap to seek, vol/brightness controls) enable/disable recommended embedded video links (tiles), can make video pause on notifications, sanitizes sharing links. There are 56 patches avail.

                Revanced can also be used to patch other software like spotify, reddit, twitch and facebook

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      Brave browser also works on mobile, including playing when another app is open or the screen is locked.

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    Storing and serving videos is expensive, they have to pay for it somehow. Either you pay directly or someone else pays for you (through an Ad). I don’t see why this is inherently a problem.

    I can see arguments on if the specifics are a problem with how they’re going about it, but the fundamentals make sense.

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      It always feels like YouTube is double dipping though. Not with what the post is about; that’s either/or, obviously.

      But Google makes a nice profit collecting user data and behavior, and then selling that to advertising companies. That happens regardless of using an adblocker, and I’d be shocked if it doesn’t also happen regardless of YT premium.

      But at the same time, Google also IS an advertising company; they use their user data collection platform to also show ads to users, getting paid again.

      So personally, even if YT wasn’t owned and operated by a shitstain of a capitalist eldritch horror company, I’d still have zero qualms blocking all their ads: they’re making money off of me regardless.

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    I’d have paid the fee for ad-free YouTube if it didn’t also come with an (expensive) subscription to YouTube music.

    Nowadays though I don’t want to give Google money for anything, even incidentally. I just use Ublock Origin.

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    Yes.
    I signed up with Google Play Music All Access in its two month intro way back when. At the time it was $7.99mo for life. They included YouTube Red when that launched. Now after all the name changes and price hikes, I’m still locked in at $7.99. I’ll keep it as long as that lasts.