I mean, it’s pretty easy to imagine needing 10 USB ports. I think I’m using around that many myself on my desktop. Then just add a couple more for things that may be things needed temporarily.
My kids gaming pc tower has a set of usb ports on the back and a set on the front. It’s great to have options, but he’s not going to use them all. Ie he has ten usb ports for the five he uses
Fair enough, but not everyone is your kid. Needing to have things plugged in at once shouldn’t need defending. I would prefer to leave things plugged in if I can. USB supports that, so why wouldn’t I?
The thing is though, every situation is different. I’m glad the designers of USB did not think like you do. Having the ability to use a lot of devices might be rare but it’s definitely been needed before, whether or not others can imagine it.
Fuck’s sake I was just asking what they were using it for that they filled out 15 ports and everyone is attacking me for thinking 15 is too much or something.even though I never stated that
Well, from an Apple pov, there’s no reason to change that limit (which is probably there because of some legacy limitation) until they release a device with more usb ports, which they probably won’t. macOS isn’t supposed to run on your pc motherboard after all.
But I agree that it’s annoying. I was daily driving a hackintosh with catalina for two years. Wasn’t the easiest setup.
Yeah, and from an Apple POV it makes sense to take away common ports just to make the phone .01mm thinner and sell you a shitty peripheral to replace the hardware port.
Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or something that people would accept from a company they didn’t have cult like devotion towards.
I‘d argue though, there is a difference between a technical limitation apple just doesn’t care about resolving because it just doesn’t matter for any device their software is officially available on and them intentionally removing features.
Like, I don’t think the port limit was an executive decision but some random programmer’s who wrote that code like 25 years ago when he decided that one byte must suffice for the total count of usb ports.
When I worked for Apple, I do remember the iOS devs having racks of iOS devices all being flashed at the same time off a single Mac. But I don’t remember the count and this was years ago—like Snow Leopard to El Cap era.
I was just kind of data analytics, but the labs were near my area, so can’t really give much more info, but mildly interesting, I guess?
Are you an apple dev?
I am just asking what they are doing to need that as I cannot think of anything off the top of my head
Music production, which apple pretends to be superior at.
I mean, it’s pretty easy to imagine needing 10 USB ports. I think I’m using around that many myself on my desktop. Then just add a couple more for things that may be things needed temporarily.
My kids gaming pc tower has a set of usb ports on the back and a set on the front. It’s great to have options, but he’s not going to use them all. Ie he has ten usb ports for the five he uses
Fair enough, but not everyone is your kid. Needing to have things plugged in at once shouldn’t need defending. I would prefer to leave things plugged in if I can. USB supports that, so why wouldn’t I?
I mean the point is there’s a convenience factor where you might have twice as many ports as you’re willing to use
It’s not just that you might have more devices or want to leave them plugged in, but you may find some ports undesirable to use
I can hardly imagine needing 15 ports at the same time.
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in your imagination.
Well I am currently using about 5-6 ports on my PC and 2 of those are not really needed. I can imagine using a couple more but certainly not 15.
I could fill them up but I don’t have a scenario where I actually need that many things plugged in at the same time in the first place.
The thing is though, every situation is different. I’m glad the designers of USB did not think like you do. Having the ability to use a lot of devices might be rare but it’s definitely been needed before, whether or not others can imagine it.
Fuck’s sake I was just asking what they were using it for that they filled out 15 ports and everyone is attacking me for thinking 15 is too much or something.even though I never stated that
The question wasn’t a problem. The repeated implications that it’s too many is obviously what annoyed people.
How many cups and plates do you own? Why more than 1?
meanwhile I’m overhere with…
keyboard, mouse, camera, 4x flash drive, game controller, ebook reader, external storage disk, printer, VR headset, multimedia card reader, LED controller, my monitor (USBc display + hub + KVM) and my phone…
ofcourse not all at the same time. but I have a mess of USB extensions and hubs as I don’t have enough root Ports lol
(Linux not hacintosh) I apparently couldn’t run it if I wanted to.
Yeah that was my main thing. It can be done but most people don’t need all of those plugged in constantly
Well, from an Apple pov, there’s no reason to change that limit (which is probably there because of some legacy limitation) until they release a device with more usb ports, which they probably won’t. macOS isn’t supposed to run on your pc motherboard after all.
But I agree that it’s annoying. I was daily driving a hackintosh with catalina for two years. Wasn’t the easiest setup.
Yeah, but from Apple’s perspective, a lot of shitty things make more sense but I still ain’t okay with them :)
I was thinking of trying to do hackintosh before I switched to Linux. I think I dodged a bullet.
Yeah, and from an Apple POV it makes sense to take away common ports just to make the phone .01mm thinner and sell you a shitty peripheral to replace the hardware port.
Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or something that people would accept from a company they didn’t have cult like devotion towards.
I‘d argue though, there is a difference between a technical limitation apple just doesn’t care about resolving because it just doesn’t matter for any device their software is officially available on and them intentionally removing features.
Like, I don’t think the port limit was an executive decision but some random programmer’s who wrote that code like 25 years ago when he decided that one byte must suffice for the total count of usb ports.
One byte is much larger than 15.
Yea, you’re right, my math wasn’t quite mathing, I’ve had a long day. I meant 4 bit.
When I worked for Apple, I do remember the iOS devs having racks of iOS devices all being flashed at the same time off a single Mac. But I don’t remember the count and this was years ago—like Snow Leopard to El Cap era.
I was just kind of data analytics, but the labs were near my area, so can’t really give much more info, but mildly interesting, I guess?