In some areas people pronounce an initial ch as a k, like kina instead china. But apart from that neither of the two actual ch sounds exists in English.
That’s not a valid comparison at all, and it’s not pedantic to point that out no matter how preemptively you claim that it is.
Bilapial ≠ lapiodental! It’s not that hard to understand.
The entire similarity between K and the German Ch is based on them both being velar (and unvoiced). You’re crafting a strawman by focusing on the “fricative and plosive” manner while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.
S and T are almost a better comparison because they’re both technically alveolar, but that ignores the fact that S has a dental component. Try making a T sound and then an S sound without moving your teeth. It won’t work.
Yep. Ch as k- sound exists in english. So does ch as (t)sh. So it’s your choosing how you want to pronounce ch in foreign languages (and both are wrong)
suchen = to search/look for
and ch doesn’t make a k sound, not even close.
Coming back to this thread, because sometimes it actually is pronounced as a k
e.g. Fuchs, Lachs, wachsen
tbf, it usually is not a k, and most importantly it isn’t in this context
Yeah, but only in combination with an s, so it’s chs that’s pronounced as ks.
Unless you’re a Berliner, but then you have to wonder why your baked goods are talking, and why they insist on being called Pfannkuchen instead.
I’m fairly certain the German ch sound doesn’t exist in English
Made even worse by the fact that depending on the word it can make two different sounds and neither of them exist in English
In some areas people pronounce an initial ch as a k, like kina instead china. But apart from that neither of the two actual ch sounds exists in English.
Und often enough, ch is pronounced (t)sh, like China, duchess, choose or Apache.
Aaah, thanks, I had a hard time to figure out what is supposed to be funny here.
Well it is close, though. A velar fricative versus a velar plosive. Both unvoiced.
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That’s not a valid comparison at all, and it’s not pedantic to point that out no matter how preemptively you claim that it is.
Bilapial ≠ lapiodental! It’s not that hard to understand.
The entire similarity between K and the German Ch is based on them both being velar (and unvoiced). You’re crafting a strawman by focusing on the “fricative and plosive” manner while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.
S and T are almost a better comparison because they’re both technically alveolar, but that ignores the fact that S has a dental component. Try making a T sound and then an S sound without moving your teeth. It won’t work.
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Korean for example doesn’t have an F sound, a lot of loanwords that have an F sound use P instead, France turns into Prangseu and coffee to copy.
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In Dutch, a T is sometimes pronounced S
Politie (police) is pronounced polisie for example
In the word politiek (politics) it remains a T sound
Democratie -> democrasie
Etcetera
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You find that in a lot of european languages, even in English almost everything that ends in -tion is pronounced -shon.
Go back to school.
This is about German, not English
It is about English, because the whole joke is how it sounds in English.
the statement you replied to was about how ch sounds in german though
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Yes, such as in the word school .
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I guess it depends on the word. Dich 100% sounds like it would be Dick compared to a Dish or Ditch pronunciation of ch though.
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I see. So it’s kina, dukess, koose and Apake? Gotta have a word with some english teakers, brb.
anarchy, character, chemistry, echo, orchestra, scheme, anchor, chameleon, chasm, chlorine, chord, epoch, hierarchy, chiropractor, chorus, archive, chaos, school, schedule, stomach, ache, psychology, mechanic.
Yep. Ch as k- sound exists in english. So does ch as (t)sh. So it’s your choosing how you want to pronounce ch in foreign languages (and both are wrong)
I just so happen to have passed by one of my old schools, what should I do next?