• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Thank you! Lemmy is a bunch of people bitching about their brand name laptop running a garbage version of Windows and loaded with factory crapware.

    But hey, they get to come here and comment smugly about Linux. Meanwhile, I haven’t read a single article talking about an issue I’ve actually seen, at home or office.

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      4 hours ago

      Are you upset at people criticizing Microsoft? Is that the point you are trying to make?

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        3 hours ago

        I was criticizing MS before most of lemmy was fucking born. But can you see what I’m saying?

        “Never had these issues, not once.”

        Lemmy: “Fuck you! Yes you have! You’re not in our tribe!” (Also lemmy: Only idiot conservatives defend their tribe no matter what.)

        Can you see how insane that is from my perspective? Installed Windows 10 on this SSD 8-years ago. Moved that SSD through 3 or 4 PCs and upgraded to 11, no problems.

        Then there was a very similar thread about people trying to switch to Linux:

        “As soon as I get $basic_driver working, I can finally switch!”

        Been running Linux servers for 20-years. I never use MS unless there’s a compelling reason, IIS or some bullshit. But the Linux desktop is still a clusterfuck.

        “It’s awesome if you use $distro with $desktop! You’ll have problems with $x, $y and $z, but you can fix that by [command line work].”

        “OK. I can make Windows go with a base ISO and some PowerShell. No ads, no horseshit, start menu is flawless.”

        “Look at this idiot that has to use a CLI to make his OS work!”

        These people are like atheists that just learned you don’t have to believe in god.

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          You just come off as unusually worked up about the Microsoft criticisms is why I ask.

          Its not even a lemmy thing exclusive either. From reddit to youtube there’s been lot of criticism of the direction of consumer Windows 11 that there’s people providing guides now on getting LTSC.

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          I used windows since 3.1 up till 11. It’s dogshit after windows 7 even when I use cmd scripts to limit telemetry and customize it because MS with their infinite wisdom decided to revert my customizations to their default dogshit.

          Linux is not perfect at all but Id rather dealing with linux issues over greedy executive decisions to cause issues intentionally.

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            It’s dogshit after windows 7

            Lol

            Not only were there several dogshit windows versions before 7, 8 was an upgrade in almost every way other than “omg start menu big now” culture shock. The new task manager alone was worth having a slightly bigger start menu.

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      9 hours ago

      Which is, by the way, totally ok. If you buy an expensive computer and it is getting shipped with a garbage version of an OS that is something to complain about. It’s also totally reasonable to complain that there is a garbage version at all. People shouldn’t need to reinstall their brand new computers with pirated enterprise versions to escape the abuses of Microsoft. At least let us bitch about this here, dude!

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        3 hours ago

        Pirated? You may not be aware, but you can download Windows ISOs straight from Microsoft. The second you boot your machine and register it, the license is permanent and you can install Windows forever.

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      If retail laptops came with enterprise or the upgrade to enterprise was free or the home and pro versions had the same minimal crapware as enterprise then you might have a point.

      But that isn’t the case and Linux is still free and not full of shit so the smugness is mostly justified and you’re mostly wrong.

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        3 hours ago
        1. Register your new laptop.

        2. Wipe and reinstall an official ISO from Windows without the crapware.

        3. Best served tweaked with some PowerShell scripting.

        or

        1. Download your Linux ISO and install

        2. Best served tweaked with CLI work to get everything working. If the drivers are even available.