• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I can’t see them getting bailed out. That would be political suicide for either party. AI companies aren’t creating jobs, they manufacture nothing (like autos) and they’re not our financial backbone (like banks).

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      14 days ago

      They tech companies themselves likely won’t get a bailout, but don’t rule out the Fed warming up the ol’ money printer. All the borrowing for data centers, where do you think they’re borrowing from. Banks, insurance companies, bond investors and private credit funds. Those first two are the key. If a too-big-to-fail bank or insurance company gets jammed up by their own bad loans to hyperscalers, you best believe they’re going to the Fed, hat in hand, asking for another bowl of that sweet, sweet quantitative easing.

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          Yeah, my understanding is that once bankers have bet more of other people’s pensions and life-savings than they can cover if they lose the bet, they are in line for a bailout.

          In effect, the more catastrophic your bet is, the less personal responsibility you have to take for it.

          One of the many hypocrisies and perverse incentives of capitalism.

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            14 days ago

            That’s anything but capitalism. Capitalism says if you fail you die. If that takes other people down, so be it. But bailouts were never supposed to be a thing.

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            14 days ago

            In effect, the more catastrophic your bet is, the less personal responsibility you have to take for it.

            “If you owe the bank $100, that’s your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.”

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        14 days ago

        Also there could be contagion to the big banks and institutional investors (think pension funds) from the bond sales and the construction loans for the data centers.

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        14 days ago

        What about all the major companies who have scraped their workforce to replace it with AI, so sure that it would pay off. They also can’t afford for AI to go under, so they’ll add to the “please bail us out” for the good of the economy.

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        14 days ago

        An entire financial industry ruined by bad loans to a single market you say… Wait, I think I’ve seen this one…

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      14 days ago

      Would it still be political suicide if it was bipartisan? They’ll make up a million stupid reasons, unleash their army of bots to promote it, and try the same thing Facebook did in 2016.

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        14 days ago

        We’ll be told that democrats and republicans both support bailouts, but that we have to support democrats because republicans worse. On a dwindling number of policies democrats never fight for.

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      14 days ago

      They already have had trump rumbling that they are key to “national security”. So clearly getting ready to bail them out.