that applies to imperialism too.
plenty of anarcho-libs out there claiming to hate capitalism, while repeating cia talking points about china, venezuela, and so on.
imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism
and some can’t seem to see it happening!
Technically you can be an anticapitalist and still not a leftist. You could be one of those weirdo turbo conservative monarchists.
Future “don’t make me tap the sign” material
My head-cannon of the differences
US Socialist (social democrat) - Busses should be free for everyone.
US Liberal - Free bus passes only for poor people
US Right-wing - Let the free-market decide and somehow only allow US citizens to ride busses.
The free market will decide it’s actually more profitable to shut down bus service entirely and pivot to helping ICE transport bus loads of “illegal immigrants”.
Lowkey yikes. I don’t want to associate myself with either graphic
Neither capitalist nor anti capitalist, but some secret third thing
(the secret third thing being fascism)
So, capitalism too
there are multiple varying definitions of liberal depending on the time, location, and context reddit thread discussing this
Yes, but the above one is the most consistent that would cut down all those discussions.
I mean, liberals by really almost any definition will still be pro-Capitalism, from Classical Liberalism to American Democratic Party liberalism. Once people go further left, into anti-Capitalism, they almost always stop using that label.
There varying definitions of a lot of words, and most of those variant definitions are wrong
Anytime someone says liberal on Lemmy it will mostly likely refer to modern liberalism in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States
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Creating division between people who want to make things better and people who want to maintain the current absolutely dogshit status quo is actually a good thing
I mean, liberalism’s support of private property and market economics are definitional.
We love gross generalizations. Most people I meet just don’t really think about it in those terms. I’d say it’s probably more accurate to describe liberal voters as not being anti-capitalist
Now a liberal politician? Yeah 100% pro capitalism
