A former BioWare employee says that EA’s new management wasn’t on board with the developer’s inclusiveness.

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    18 days ago

    I think people overblow this a bit. Personally don’t care if there is a LGBTQ flag or not. And don’t think it matters, because it has no impact. It would be more worrying to me, when changing the integrity of story, characters or gameplay in example. Who cares if there is some texture that looked similar to a LGBTQ flag and had to be removed? I certainly don’t care (wouldn’t if they added it too BTW, zero impact).

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      18 days ago

      I think i get what you’re saying and i also don’t care, but when a dev puts a flag in and people start getting weird about it then I start caring a lot.

      I’m not queer, but I find throwing trans and rainbow flags around is a great way to get fascists and bigots and otherwise miserable people to out themselves.

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          18 days ago

          Then it’s all equivalent. We agree nothing in the game is materially more important than anything else—it’s all just pixels and noises which trigger experiences in a player.

          In the context of a video game it’s important to the video game and the people who make it and play it. In that context it’s a problem.

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            18 days ago

            When it comes to a flag, yes. As long as the gameplay, story and character visions and the interactions are not compromised. It’s not all white and black.

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                18 days ago

                As said, I’m not speculating or judging anything else than the removal of a flag. I personally think removing the flag doesn’t matter at all. I am not talking about ANYTHING ELSE.

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      18 days ago

      If the developers chose to remove it, that’s not a big deal. If they just decided “Eh, this is a fictional world in the future, there’ll be different symbols. It’s too on-the-nose to have the exact flag”, good for them. No big deal.

      Nobody is upset about it being removed from a player’s perspective.

      The issue that people have is the developers are being censored. And specifically, what’s being censored is something that represents a group of people are actively being attacked and erased in parts of the world.

      I hope that this explanation helps you see the situation differently. There’s nobody who’s upset because “I wanted to see the flag”. It’s bigger than that.

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        18 days ago

        If it was more than a flag removal, I would understand the issue. But it literally changes nothing.

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          18 days ago

          It’s more than a flag removal by having deeper meaning than a flag removal.

          As well, the game was cancelled. There may have been more censorship to come.

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      18 days ago

      Just like rainbow crosswalks the flag itself isn’t that important, it’s the fact they’re being removed that’s the problem.

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        18 days ago

        Not for me. (Edit: As long as they don’t change the actual functionality to be LGBT. I just say I don’t care about the flag itself, as long as we can fuck whoever we want. And they seem not to change that. It’s really just a flag…)

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              18 days ago

              .ml usually sucking cock on Putin and Xi, two leaders/dictators known for their inclusiveness of the lgbtq+ folk

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                18 days ago

                Oh, I was not aware of that. And I am not against LGBTQ+ people and I’m also not for Putin or China. And to be honest I never saw such comments in our community.

                I’m just saying, that I personally don’t care about the flag itself in the game, as long as the functionality itself is preserved. I don’t want to have a compromised game, but a flag is not compromised to me.

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                  18 days ago

                  Good. But this isn’t about you, it’s representation of minorities that they’re slowly removing and undoing years of blood, sweat and tears shed by people willing to fight.

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                    18 days ago

                    My opinion is about me. A flag in the game has nothing to do with blood, sweat and tears of real life. It also doesn’t change the functionality, you just don’t get the flag in the game. Which is not important to me.

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          18 days ago

          You don’t see the removal request as an indicator that there might have been similiar attempts during actual development?

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                18 days ago

                That’s not what is reported and is something you read into and we don’t know. If there are other requests, then its a different topic. I am strictly talking about the flag, nothing else here (as it is reported).

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                    18 days ago

                    Same could be said about you. Calling people in not good faith because they disagree or don’t believe without evidence isn’t good faith either.