• The Mop Lord@moplemmy.fyi
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    I watched the trial. She was hilariously demolished on the stand about damn near everything. Yeah they found him guilty in the UK but based on the US trial and how clearly and blatantly she was caught lying over and over again it just makes me think the UK trial was a steaming load of Amber Heard shit.

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      The UK trial merely found that, on the balance of probability, he had struck her on at least a single occasion, ergo he is/was a wife beater. That was the only question the court needed to answer. Both trial verdicts may be equally valid - perhaps they’re a pair of cunts.

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    Depp is bigger, stronger, has more money, wealth, influence, and power. To imagine Heard as the abuser, you have to impart her with supernatural ability, or concede that Johnny is the world’s biggest pussy.

    Johnny Depp is the turd in his own bed.

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      If you have ever talked to an abuse victim, you would know that there is no amount of power you can amass that would protect you from an abusive partner. Sometimes, not even evidence as OP still insists to reject the real world.

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      Ew. You’re the reason some big dude with an abusive little girlfriend won’t every come out and seek help.

      You are a yucky person. With a mindset like that, I bet you don’t think females can’t rape people.

      If we met in public and I knew this how you felt. I’d tell you to stay away from my child and wife. You are yucky.

      Just…ew.

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      For you to believe that you must not have read any of the actual court docs around the case only the entertainment “news”

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      You don’t believe that wealthier or stronger people can be abused? That’s absurd. In this case, everything I’ve seen indicates that the abuse was mutual, but there are definitely also cases where an abuse victim is bigger, stronger, etc. than their abuser. Implying that those victims are somehow deficient by virtue of being victims is reprehensible.

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        You don’t believe that wealthier or stronger people can be abused?

        Only the Sith deal in absolutes, but yes, I believe that the party with more power is likely to be the one who abuses. You may be aware that power is not just an indicator of abuse, but often the modality of abuse.

        The idea that Depp chooses partners who are younger than his shoes, and still gets overpowered and outmatched, calls into question not only his masculinity, but his ability to function in the world.

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    See this is poorly worded, it implies Johnny Depp was determined by the court to have beaten his wife in a literal physical violence sense, but the courts determined the exact opposite. The courts determined Amber Heard was abusive and liable for damages to Depp.

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      “In the UK,” it says. It’s referring to a different, earlier trial with a different outcome.

      Depp v News Group Newspapers Ltd [2020] EWHC 2911 (QB) was a defamation lawsuit brought in England. The case was initiated by American actor Johnny Depp … after The Sun ran an article[b] that claimed Depp had abused his ex-wife … The article stated, “Overwhelming evidence was filed to show Johnny Depp engaged in domestic violence against his wife Amber Heard,” who “recounted a detailed history of domestic abuse incidents, some of which had led to her fearing for her life.” After a three-week trial in London in July 2020, Andrew Nicol, a High Court judge sitting without a jury, rejected Depp’s claim in a verdict announced later that year, ruling that the published material was “substantially true”.[2]

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      it’s not poorly worded. the OP seems to be trying to say that depp beat his wife.

      the courts decided otherwise, and they definitely have more info about the situation than I do

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      But Johnny Depp is a drug addicted, alcoholic, wife beating rapist.

      Don’t you think that’s worse than being a relatively minor celebrity at the receiving end of the aforementioned rapist, wife beater?

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        There has been a weeklong trial that has established he’s not and amber heard is extremely manipulative and abusive.

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        Except he is not. Otherwise you disagree with a weeks long trial, an incredibly patient judge, a number of jurors, the alternates, most of the legal commentators, and basically most of the evidence.

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            No, trusting the legal system would be reading “guilty” and stopping there.

            I have seen more than 200h of motions and trial live. I have also seen independent opinions. I have seen evidence. I have seen articles corroborating my conclusions. And ultimately I also have trust in the judge as well as the jurors who delivered this verdict (I think they were individually polled but I’m not sure).

            Rich would be to have such a minority opinion that you hold and asserting everyone should think like you.

            I don’t, I think it’s good that there’s other opinions than mine. Doesn’t mean I have to agree. But such is nuance.

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            And you just blindly trust the statement of a single person (who really doesn’t look perfectly trustworthy) to the point you frame the other person as a monster without good evidence. Now who’s acting “a bit rich”?

            My god, what a load of bullshit this whole post is. This is some “frontpage of a magazine at the kiosk no one with half a brain should ever buy” stuff.

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              No. I have actually examined the case and realized that Amber Heard is innocent and Depp is a rapist.

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      Here is the help4abuse one

      CW: domestic violence

      Two years ago, I wrote a blog post about the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp defamation case. Over the course of two years, my thoughts and opinions have changed – slightly – and probably not in the way most people who follow mainstream media would expect. I’ve become more educated and experienced with my role as an advocate and with an abuser tactic called DARVO (I’ll dive into what that is here in a little bit).

      I focused that initial blog post on the reaction the public was giving to the case, noting that this trial will impact future victims coming forward. No surprises here: it did just that.

      I also danced around a lot of topics, not wanting to upset anyone who read the initial blog post. I will never, ever insinuate that men cannot be abused – but I was woefully worried that my original post would be taken that way if I firmly defended Heard. Public perception over this case was crazy at the time. I no longer have the fear that I will offend someone – because I have statistics, resources, and real-world experience to back my opinions up. And, I absolutely believe that survivors of abuse should be loudly defended.

      *Please note that through the duration of this blog I will be referring to violence against women by their male partners – even though men and LGBTQ+ individuals can and do experience abuse.

      Since the conclusion of this trial, if a woman comes forward with a sexual assault accusation but isn’t “squeaky clean” within her personal life (or if the man she is accusing is more “popular” than her) then she is immediately compared to Amber Heard.  We have conjured and cemented (as a society) the idea of a “perfect victim” through this trial. It has always been this way – but the Depp v. Heard trial amplified these misogynistic beliefs to become even more forefront within our justice system and public opinion.

      Society has decided that the perfect victim is an innocent. She doesn’t drink or do drugs. As a result, she has a clear memory of her assault. She has evidence—but not too much evidence because that would mean that she’s vindictive and planned to speak out. In fact, when she comes forward, she does so reluctantly – timidly. She is not full of rage, she is poised.

      Photo by Natasha Hall on Unsplash

      She cuts off contact with her abuser as soon as the abuse takes place. She does no wrong—at the office, in relationships, as a mother or daughter. She’s never lied about anything, ever, in her entire life. She dresses “appropriately.” She has never yelled or said hurtful things to her abuser. She has never fought back.

      She does not exist.

      In that first blog, I said that “abuse is not always black and white.” And that is still true. It’s not. What is, though, is what abuse really is about: power and control. Abuse always has something to do with power and control.

      Initially, when allegations of abuse surfaced against Johnny Depp, there was a notable portion of the public that rallied behind him. Depp, a beloved and iconic figure in the entertainment industry, enjoyed widespread support, with many questioning the credibility of Amber Heard’s claims – even though a prior trial in the UK ruled that Heard’s claims were “substantially true.”

      Photo by Vitaly Sacred on Unsplash

      This reaction can be attributed to various factors, including Depp’s status as a popular celebrity and the tendency to prioritize his reputation over Heard’s allegations.

      Society’s reflexive defense of Depp highlights a common phenomenon where individuals accused of abuse, especially when they hold positions of power or fame, are given the benefit of the doubt. This knee-jerk reaction reflects deeply ingrained biases and societal norms that often discredit or minimize the experiences of victims, particularly women, in cases of intimate partner violence.

      As the case unfolded and more evidence came to light, the narrative began to shift ever so slightly. Details of Depp and Heard’s tumultuous relationship emerged, painting a more complex picture of the dynamics at play. Reports of “mutual abuse” and volatile behavior from both parties began to challenge the initial United States perception of Depp as the victim and Heard as the perpetrator trying to get back at a powerful man.

      Admittedly, this idea of mutual abuse was one that I, myself, believed in for quite some time. But the truth of the matter is that “mutual abuse” is extremely rare (if it even exists at all) – remember, abuse is about power and control. There is always a dominant aggressor – even if the victim responds in a toxic, volatile way.  Someone always has more control.

      Because of the way that abuse fundamentally works, in order to believe what Depp counterclaimed against Heard you’d have to believe that she, at the age of 23, set her sights on one of the most powerful, wealthy, visible and loved men in the world and saw an easy mark. She saw a man 25 years her senior who has a team of around-the-clock carers, staff and security personnel and thought, “Yes, this person will be easy for me to control, harm, and manipulate”.  You’d have to believe that somehow, the fundamental dynamics of abusive relationships switched and went completely backwards, just this one time. You’d also have to believe that Heard invented false sexual assault stories about Depp as part of this evil plan of hers — but never told anyone about them except her therapist, privately, in therapy, at the time they happened. She never made a public accusation of rape or sexual assault at any point. She only testified about it (under the strict condition of confidentiality) in the UK because she was a witness when Depp sued The Sun, and then she only ever mentioned it again when he forced her to, publicly, on camera, in front of the world during the trial in Virginia.

      An abuser’s authority and control are paramount, and they feel entitled to it, and their choice of victim is deliberate. This is why the vast majority of abusers tend to choose younger, less financially secure, less socially powerful victims. Often these are victims with low self-esteem, who they know don’t know how to advocate for themselves.

      Here is where my understanding of DARVO comes in. DARVO stands for “Deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender.” DARVO is an abuse tactic that a person may use to deflect responsibility onto an individual they have abused. It is a form of manipulation a person may use to discredit a survivor’s experience.

      Someone may use DARVO to make it seem as though the survivor of their abuse was actually the perpetrator. Oftentimes, a person using DARVO may state that they are the one who has experienced abuse rather than the actual survivor. They will deny any true wrongdoing. This form of manipulation may make it difficult for other people to determine who is telling the truth.

      The “deny” portion of DARVO is, I believe, the easiest to grasp. Denying the abuse happened. Gaslighting the world and the victim into believing that they are crazy or blowing things out of proportion. “Attacking” gets a little more complicated. This looks like an abuser vilifying their victim by saying their victim is untrustworthy because of mental illness, prior relationships, substance abuse problems, or prior instances of consent (when it comes to sex within the relationship). “Reversing victim and offender” is the last portion of DARVO. This is where the perpetrator of violence attempts to make everyone believe that the victim is the abuser. The abuser does their best to make it seem like the victim was “out to get them” or gaining something by coming forward with abuse allegations.

      That’s the “funny” thing about this case – Amber Heard never named Johnny Depp in her article that started this all. Amber Heard did not initiate this trial. She had nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming forward. She didn’t even have a prenup with Depp. In a straightforward divorce settlement (under California law) she would’ve been better off. But she walked away from this because she needed a restraining order against Depp.

      Photo by Erik Mclean on Unsplash

      Experts on domestic violence, intimate partner violence, sexual assault, and women’s rights agree that Depp used DARVO to shift public perception and paint Heard as a villain. Depp’s team knew that having the trial televised and recorded would give way to an onslaught of “clippable,” “memeable” moments that would undoubtedly favor everyone’s favorite Disney pirate.

      Our society’s tendency to not believe survivors of abuse, misogyny, and Depp’s use of DARVO undoubtedly played a significant role in shaping public opinion and media portrayals throughout the trial. Heard faced intense scrutiny and character assassination, with her credibility called into question based on her personal history and perceived behavior. The concept of the “perfect victim” emerged, reinforcing unrealistic expectations that survivors of abuse must adhere to a narrow set of criteria to be deemed credible.

      The backlash against Amber Heard during and after the trial was particularly intense and often manifested in various forms of hate, harassment, and vilification. Heard became a lightning rod for criticism and vitriol from both the public and certain factions of the entertainment industry.

      Photo by Mike van den Bos on Unsplash

      One of the most prevalent forms of hate directed towards Heard was online harassment, with social media platforms serving as breeding grounds for misogynistic attacks and character assassination. Heard was subjected to relentless trolling, with individuals hurling insults, threats, and derogatory comments her way. This digital onslaught not only targeted Heard personally but also sought to undermine her credibility and invalidate her experiences as a survivor of abuse.

      Heard endured disparagement from some quarters of the entertainment industry, with certain individuals and media outlets perpetuating negative narratives about her character and integrity. Tabloid headlines sensationalized and distorted the details of the case, painting Heard as a manipulative and opportunistic figure seeking to destroy Depp’s career and reputation. Her allegations of abuse were completely disregarded in an attempt to make a quick joke at her expense. Conspiracy theories, misinformation, and a pervasive culture of victim-blaming collided in to exacerbating the abuse that Heard experienced.

      It is easy (and desirable) to simplify narratives into heroes and villains. Depp is a renowned, beloved figure. To lots of individuals, reconciling the fact that their favorite actor is an abuser could be too much. No one wants to believe that someone they revere could truly be awful. Society damn near infantilized Johnny Depp when this trial was taking place. The world (mostly the United States) painted him as an innocent, funny drunk that maybe got a little out of control a few times.

      But who doesn’t get a little wild occasionally, right?

      I don’t know about you, but I’ve never gotten so “wild” that I text my friend that I want to “burn and rape” my partners corpse – in any context, for any reason.

      Truthfully, abusers will use the courts to further torture their victims. This happens all the time, and they do it to force contact or interaction or reestablish a sense of control after a relationship ends. They do it to exert what power they still have left over their victim, to ruin them financially, and to traumatize and punish them for as long as they can for having the “gall” to leave. Depp took it up a notch, though. He has used all of the social and celebrity fame, and all the money and power at his disposal, to absolutely destroy, humiliate, and exile that woman on a scale that not seen before. “Global humiliation”, just like he promised her in this horrifically malicious email.

      Again, Heard had nothing to gain from talking about her abuse. Most victims rarely have anything to gain other than their own peace of mind or safety.

      This isn’t just about Johnny Depp. It isn’t just about Amber Heard. This case is about misogyny and victim-blaming, and how quickly we will believe even the most ludicrous stories once they’re uttered from a powerful man’s mouth, and how much we still so dearly love to have a witch to burn.

      It was so easy for the public to listen to an audio tape leaked by the team of her accused abuser and accept it at face value. To keep believing it, even after it’s proven to have been manipulated. To actually know something is a lie, and to choose to believe the lie anyway once it protects a popular man and demonizes the woman jeopardizing his status or movie deals.

      The hate directed towards Amber Heard to this very day serves as a sobering reminder of the consequences of speaking out against powerful individuals and systems of oppression. Survivors of abuse often face significant barriers to seeking justice and accessing support, as they navigate a landscape fraught with disbelief, victim-blaming, and retribution.

      Refusing to believe survivors when they come forward carries grave repercussions. Statistics show that false rape reports are exceedingly rare, with reports of domestic abuse not far behind. It’s also crucial to acknowledge that there are consequences for falsely accusing someone of violence.

      As time has passed and the complexities of cases like Heard’s continue to unravel, it prompts us to reflect deeply and ask ourselves: Are we now prepared to believe Amber Heard? Are we willing to extend that belief to all survivors of abuse, irrespective of their circumstances or the identities of their perpetrators?

      These questions are not merely rhetorical. They demand introspection, empathy, and a commitment to fostering a culture of accountability and support for survivors. Until we can unequivocally answer “yes” to these questions, we will continue to perpetuate the cycle of silence and injustice that allows abuse to thrive unchecked in our society.

      If you need any additional information, have a question, or a concern, feel free to reach out to Options at our 24-hour toll-free helpline 800-794-4624. You can also reach an advocate by texting HOPE to 847411 or click 24-Hour Chat with Options.

      Written by Anniston Weber

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        It is wild how little we try to teach people not to become abusers, the appropriate designation of responsibility begins there.

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      Is there a way to read more of the article beyond the first paragraph? This is all i can see:

      [domesticshelters.org](https://domesticshelters.org/) CW: disturbing domestic abuse imagery

      “We’re married now. I can punch her in the face and nobody can do anything about it.”
      Johnny Depp on his wedding day to Amber Heard, per the testimony of an acquaintance

      As a journalist who’s covered domestic violence for nearly the past 10 years, I’ve interviewed hundreds of survivors who’ve told me demoralizing, maddening and nearly unbelievable stories. I say nearly unbelievable, of course, because it sounds improbable that a man would strangle his wife almost to death while she held their newborn baby in her arms. It sounds insane that a man would threaten to put live snakes in his wife’s bed while she was sleeping as a way to terrify her into compliance. It is beyond disturbing to imagine that a woman slept for years with a knife underneath her pillow, on guard in case her husband tried to kill her in the night.

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        Huh, that’s weird. I can read all of it.

        Has Johnny Depp Gaslit Us All? part 1

        “We’re married now. I can punch her in the face and nobody can do anything about it.”

        • Johnny Depp on his wedding day to Amber Heard, per the testimony of an acquaintance

        As a journalist who’s covered domestic violence for nearly the past 10 years, I’ve interviewed hundreds of survivors who’ve told me demoralizing, maddening and nearly unbelievable stories. I say nearly unbelievable, of course, because it sounds improbable that a man would strangle his wife almost to death while she held their newborn baby in her arms. It sounds insane that a man would threaten to put live snakes in his wife’s bed while she was sleeping as a way to terrify her into compliance. It is beyond disturbing to imagine that a woman slept for years with a knife underneath her pillow, on guard in case her husband tried to kill her in the night.

        But I know these are not exaggerations. I know the same way I would know it if each of these survivors I spoke to was my best friend, my sister or my own daughter. It took a lot for them to get to the point where they could talk about this, they tell me. Years. Their voice shakes. They apologize for crying. We start and stop as often as they need to. The timeline is often a bit muddled, but we piece it together. Trauma does that to the brain—it makes some memories fuzzy. It’s a way to protect us.

        I know I should stay a certain degree removed from my work, but I worry about each of them long after we hang up.

        They are not telling me their stories for a reaction. They aren’t seeking vengeance. Most times, they don’t even want to name their abusive ex for fear of retaliation. They aren’t looking for fame when their story is published. I’ve never once been asked by a survivor how their story did, how many views it got or how it was received. They have no desire to be famous, in fact, quite the opposite. In most cases, they don’t want to tell their story because they wish their story never happened to them. Instead, the reasons they give me for going public include:

        I’m speaking out so someone else might see themselves in my story.

        I don’t want anyone else to go through this.

        I want other women to see the red flags earlier.

        I want other women to know you can get out.

        And then, there’s also this.

        I just want people to believe this happened to me.

        In many cases, their own families don’t believe them. Their parents, their siblings, their grown children. Abusers make sure of that, often through something called toxic triangulation, turning their only support system against them. The survivors suffer alone, often carrying a shame they don’t deserve far past when they escape.

        Right now, I’m sure some of you are thinking, Sure, that makes sense. But that’s not this story. That’s not Johnny Depp. Amber Heard is a liar and an abuser.

        That’s exactly what Johnny was hoping you’d say.

        Survivors Don’t Want This Kind of Attention There’s a hubris that comes with abusive men. A sense of infallibility, that one can never do or be wrong. Imagine if there were no consequences for your actions, or at least you believed in your core as such. You would almost be like a god.

        Survivors of abuse know what it feels like to be with someone who believes that. Who tells them that they’ll never get out. That they’re trapped indefinitely. That even if they did escape, no one would believe they were ever truly in danger—they’re surely exaggerating.

        For the last several months, we’ve been able to (unfortunately) watch live the defamation trial of actress Amber Heard filed by her ex-husband, actor Johnny Depp. He sued her for $50 million because she wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post in December of 2018 in which she called herself a “public figure representing domestic violence.” While Depp wasn’t named, his attorneys claim it could be inferred she was speaking of her ex and thus, libel occurred (aka, defamation in print). The trial began this past April and wrapped up at the end of May. A seven-person jury decided June 1 that Heard did, in fact, defame Depp, an ironic statement unto itself considering Depp’s fame has done anything but diminish due to the trial. Heard’s declaration of trauma will potentially cost her $15 million.

        The jury simultaneously ruled in Heard’s favor, too, somewhat confusingly, saying that one of Depp’s lawyers defamed Heard when he called her claims of abuse “a hoax.”

        I’m not going to spend much time here trying to validate Heard’s allegations. My default is to believe survivors, so it’s an easy retort to say, “Then why don’t you believe Depp?” It’s even easier to say I don’t believe him because he’s a man.

        Men can be survivors of abuse, and I’ve interviewed several. However, the fact remains that it is far more likely a scenario that the woman is the victim in a heterosexual relationship (an estimated 85 percent of domestic violence victims are women and this is likely a low estimate), far more likely that only one person in a relationship is truly abusive (mutual abuse is a term widely rejected by expert domestic violence advocates) and even more likely that what Depp claims Heard did to him was her emotional reaction to his abuse.

        Furthermore, the incidents of false reporting of abuse by women are few and far-between and, as I said earlier, no woman I’ve ever known or interviewed would opt for this type of attention and victim-blaming Heard’s receiving to be bestowed upon her for no reason other than getting her name in the papers.

        We can talk about the difference between toxic relationships and relationships with an abuser all day (we already did, here), but it won’t change the fact that what happened in this trial was not truth-seeking—it wasn’t even about whether or not Depp was abusive. It was about whether or not Heard was allowed to speak about it. And in the end, it was determined she could not disclose her own trauma. It has been a gaslighting of not just Heard, but anyone who dares to support her.

        I can almost guarantee that the mass of people who have chosen to align with the #IStandWithJohnny and #JohnnyDeppIsInnocent army of defenders on social media are not survivors of domestic violence or advocates for those who are. They are unaware of the nuances of domestic violence—beyond the bruises and bandages we can see, there are myriad tactics abusers use to create a complex ruse where not only can they hide abusive behaviors, they can ensure the survivor comes across as “the crazy one” instead.

        Gaslighting is the equivalent of telling someone the room is chilly even as you sit inside a sauna, and telling them that so often they go and get a sweater. It is a tactic abusers use to make survivors doubt their own reality and question their recollection of events, events that could have happened just minutes prior.

        I didn’t yell at you.

        You’re not actually scared of me.

        It was you who said you were going to kill me, not the other way around.

        That glass just broke—I didn’t throw it at you.

        We have an amazing relationship.

        Gaslighting is sinister because it keeps a survivor silent, bedeviled by their own self-doubt.

        The jury missed this. They missed how Depp’s claims that it was her who was abusive, not him, was a common abuser magic trick. Those texts he sent, where he fantasized about killing her and then… doing more —" I will f*ck her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead”—were just jokes, and it was Heard who was emotionally overreacting.

        The jury fell for it. They put on their sweaters inside the sauna and admitted it was cold. Depp awarded them with a smile.

        The ‘Perfect Perpetrator’ Is Not Someone We Like Depp’s civil trial is insurance that future victims will think twice about willingly entering the court of public opinion by disclosing abuse against an outwardly charming or powerful abuser. If you were abused by someone who fits our ideal of an abuser—perhaps an angry, intimidating man with a disheveled appearance and bloody knuckles and who shouts all of his words—well, congrats, you may win this one. But if you accuse someone who can morph into a victim as easily as the perpetrator can, say, someone good at adopting different roles, then you’ve just asked society to suspend their belief of what dangerous looks like.

        Just as we’ve heard so much lately about the “perfect victim” stereotype and how Heard doesn’t fit that (her response to 18-plus months of possible abuse was anything but meek), so too is there a “perfect perpetrator” role our subconscious is holding on to. For many of us, Depp isn’t it. Chris Brown wasn’t it. Bill Cosby certainly wasn’t it. Celebrities we idolize can’t also be the men we fear because, if that were true, they’ve tricked us.

        If a wolf can hide in a beloved celebrity’s clothing, then how can we ever trust anyone again? It was easy to believe that Harvey Weinstein was garbage. No one had a poster of him hanging up in their room as a teenager. No one dressed as him for Halloween.

        Many of us don’t want to believe Heard because we don’t want to believe that Depp could collectively deceive us into trusting him. Certainly, if he was an abuser, we would have seen it far earlier! We’re too smart for that. He doesn’t seem like an abuser in movies, after all. A drunk pirate, maybe. A man with scissors for hands. But not a man who threatens to kill his wife.

        It’s a similar rhetoric to what so many survivors have told me before.

        I didn’t want to see it coming.

        I wanted to believe I was wrong.

        I minimized it for so long.

        Heard and Depp were married for 18 months, but if the quote at the beginning of this story is any indication, Depp’s intentions were clear from the beginning. Ask yourself if a safe partner would ever make a joke like that? Who finds humor in threats of physical violence?


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          Has Johnny Depp Gaslit Us All? part 2

          Despite a collectively loud #MeToo movement that caused a social media frenzy in 2017 (though Tarana Burke first used the phrase in 2006 to raise awareness of abused women), in 2022, we seem to have changed it to #MeTooButNotHer, cherry-picking which survivors deserve support. The irony is, Heard is doing exactly what we clamored for in 2017. She’s calling out an abusive man in a position of power. And in return, as Depp promised in a text message, “She’s begging for total global humiliation. She’s gonna get it.”

          This public shaming of Heard is not new fodder for abusers. It is something they have long threatened survivors with and will continue to do so. (Depp’s victory just shows both victims and abusers that it works.) Many survivors have been exactly where Heard is—we just haven’t seen it because it hasn’t been live-streamed. They’ve been mocked, ridiculed, accused of being the abusive one, and even arrested and jailed for attempting to defend themselves against abuse.

          Someone once said the simplest answer is usually the right one. So either we believe that a man with a nearly unlimited amount of fame, money and power let all that go to his head, and, amplified with copious amounts of alcohol and drugs, was abusive toward his wife and is now punishing his former partner for speaking out using the U.S. court system. Or we believe that Amber Heard is an abusive woman who wrote an op-ed about being a survivor for the sole purpose of … fame? Revenge? And is now entangled in a web of near-constant lies while Johnny Depp is suffering from PTSD after her terrifying abusive tirades.

          Regardless, the final outcome boils down to one thing: we all lose. Depp’s manipulation of the courts has done a disservice to true male victims of abuse who already face stigmas stepping forward. He has laughed in the face of a woman whose “rotting corpse,” he once wished, “was decomposing in the f–king trunk of a Honda Civic.” He has shown the freedom money can buy and has proven a fact most women were already well aware of: we are on trial the moment we say “no more.”