I don’t see an article linked for the relevant headline, but when I first installed linux (I use Arch btw) on my desktop, it didn’t come with swap auto-configured by the install helper ArchInstaller, but did come with oomkiller and also with 4/16GB of zram preconfigured. With three displays and three different kind of browsers open I ran out of memory when launching a game fairly quickly, and of course oomkiller went to town. Not only that, but because of stupid zram it also seemed to be stuck on an endless loop of not being able to kill something.
Oomkiller you say? I’ve never used the installer…
This is blatantly false, 99% of Gnu/Linux distros actually have systemd nicely asking the processes to terminate themselves, it just doesn’t take longer than ~10 seconds usually.
This meme would imply a sigkill.
Edit: the distros that don’t use systemd likely don’t do any such thing either, I just don’t know about them.
Except on the Linux systems I’ve used, when I ask it to shut down, it shuts down no matter what. Windows and macOS let programs stop the shutdown process indefinitely (when shutdown/reboot are invoked the usual way).
I think that’s what the meme is trying to get at.
I wish that was the case, I’ll often find my Linux desktop running because the os failed to shut something down.
Kernel will happily kill processes if it’s out of memory, regardless of systemd or whatever. But in general Linux first asks nicely for the program to shut down and if it doesn’t comply then it’s SIGKILL time.
Which IMO is a most reasonable oder of operations
Yeah, I’m kinda sick of seeing this false information on
this subthe linuxmemes community. It’s a surprisingly common meme subject somehowThis ain’t the Linux memes com
that’s why I edited
ah I misunderstood you then, my bad 😅
*clicks shut down on windows
*goes to boot computer up into the morning… sees message ‘attempting to close programs’
fu microsoft
*clicks sleep on windows
*computer turns itself on in the middle of the night and starts playing YouTube
fuck you ms
That’s almost certainly because you’ve got wake on LAN enabled in your BIOS settings and something else on your network wants to have a late-night chat with your computer.
WinKey+R
Shutdown -s -f -t 0
If you do shutdown -s -t 1 you can skip the -f and it’ll shutdown after 1 second.
Can I get a breakdown of the meaning of this?
Win + R: opens run dialog to run the next command
shutdown -s -f -t 0: cli shutdown command where -s is poweroff, -f is force, and -t 0 is a timeout of 0
Mate, you’re lucky you still got that secure boot manager thingy… drops from my disks far too often.
Can I uninstall the bootloader Mr. Linux?
Hell yes you can! Let’s try it and see what happens!Happens all the time. Usually accompanied by installing an updated version at the same time. You can uninstall your kernel too, try it.
Hard operating systems make strong men
boots into the BIOS/UEFI
There are apps that don’t close gracefully when asked by systemd in my experience. I’ve often forgotten to close one and been stuck waiting 90s for a watchdog to timeout so the app gets killed.
This is not a problem unique to windows.
