• MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
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      You mean constantly displaying sexuality as evil and interest in it as sinful leads to a unhealthy sexuality? Say it ain’t so

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      i think if less tolerance for religion became more commonplace, it might be better for mental health in general honestly.

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        I think the issue is not “religion” because that’s hard to define. What do you count as a religion and what not? It’s kinda not clearly defined. I.e., you can “believe” in science, yet does the belief make it a religion?

        I think what’s more the issue is the fact that people cling to nonsensical statements and are unwilling to look at things the way they are. I.e. a recurring theme of religion is that it absolves people from thinking, i.e. from making their own thoughts and relating those to reality. That is the thing that must be dealt with.

        In other words, people must be taught to think and analyze the world around (and inside of) them. That is what leads to wellbeing and happyness.

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          religion is an issue. and its not difficult to define.

          i agree with your second paragraph. its why i think its time to start being less hospitable to any and all religion.

          the less religion the world has, the better that people can be educated as you’ve said.

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          Funny, but this just poses further questions. I.e. is it the absence of religion that causes wellbeing, or is it wellbeing that causes the absence of religion?

          I was told the story by a stranger once: The reason why people cling to religion is because they are unable to live their own life, i.e. they struggle and can’t live in the moment, because it would be too depressing, so they cling to religion to seek an escape. Religion absolves them from thinking and therefore from recognizing the world around them, and so it’s an escape. So, in this view, bad times cause religion, but not the other way around. At least it’s one possible explanation. I don’t know whether it’s true.

          I’m just saying, don’t confuse correlation with causality. Correlation does not imply causality in general. (though in this case it probably does)

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            As someone who grew up in the brainwashing, I can fucking guarantee you religion causes suffering and shame and a disconnect from the human that we all are. It is completely causational.

            No, that doesn’t mean it has a 100% rate of suffering, but it’s damn close.

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      if someone is not able to distinguish between fiction (regardless of the medium) and reality, then the problem is much deeper than pearl-clutching religious fanatics insist on believing, and will NOT be solved by abolishing all the “bad” fiction

      We’ve been trying to make this exact argument to the exact same group of people since the earliest days of D&D and I’m sure someone was having the same conversation about some other thing before that. 😠

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      Yeah. It’s always been perplexing me that people who seem mentally okay in other ways can seem to think fiction and reality are basically the same thing.

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        Glad to see this opinion organically. I have been feeling like its moving more and more toward censure. I always thought japan pretty much had it right and then they took a step back. If its not real, its not real. I honestly don’t care about any fictional stuff be it writing or painting.

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      not able to distinguish between fiction (regardless of the medium) and reality

      religious fanatics

      The line is a circle