Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

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    17 hours ago

    For example, Louisiana mandates a minimum five-year jail sentence no matter the age of the perpetrator.

    That’s just on it’s face stupid. A thirteen year old boy is absolutely gonna wanna see girls in his age group naked. That’s not pedophilia. It’s wanting to see the girls he fantasizes about at school every day. Source: I was a thirteen year old boy.

    It shouldn’t be treated the same as when an adult man generates it; there should be nuance. I’m not saying it’s ok for a thirteen year old to generate said content: I’m saying tailor the punishment to fit the reality of the differences in motivations. Leave it to Louisiana to once again use a cudgel rather than sense.

    I’m so glad I went through puberty at a time when this kind of shit wasn’t available. The thirteen year old version of me would absolutely have got myself in a lot of trouble. And depending on what state I was in, seventeen year old me could have ended listed as a sex predetor for sending dick pics to my gf cause I produced child pornography. God, some states have stupid laws.

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      In general, even up here in woke-ville, punishments have gotten a lot more strict for kids. There’s a lot more involvement of police, courts, jail. As a parent it causes me a lot of anxiety - whatever happened to school being a “sandbox” where a kid can make mistakes without adult consequences, without ruining their lives? Did that ever exist?

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      Punishment for an adult man doing this: Prison

      Punishment for a 13 year old by doing this: Publish his browsing and search history in the school newsletter.

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      As a father of teenage girls, I don’t necessarily disagree with this assessment, but I would personally see to it that anyone making sexual deepfakes of my daughters is equitably and thoroughly punished.

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        There is a difference between ruining the life of a 13 year old boy for the rest of his life with no recourse and no expectations.

        Vs scaring the shit out of them and making them work their ass off doing an ass load of community service for a summer.

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          ruining the life of a 13 year old boy for the rest of his life with no recourse

          And what about the life of the girl this boy would have ruined?

          This is not “boys will be boys” shit. Girls have killed themselves over this kind of thing (I have personal experience with suicidal teenage girls, both as a past friend and as a father).

          I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect an equivalent punishment that has the potential to ruin his life.

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            Fake pictures do not ruin your life… sorry…

            Our puritanical / 100% sex culture is the problem, not fake pictures…

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            It is not abnormal to see different punishment for people under the age of 18. Good education about sex and what sexual assault does with their victims (same with guns, drugs including alcohol etc).

            You can still course correct the behaviour of a 13 year old. There is also a difference between generating the porn and abusing it by sharing it etc.

            The girls should be helped and the boys should be punished, but mainly their behaviour needs to be correcte

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            Parents are responsible for their kids. The punishment, with the full force of the law (and maybe something extra for good measure), should fall upon the parents, since they should have made sure their kids knew how despicable and illegal doing this is.

            Yeah, I agree, we shouldn’t ruin the boys life, we should ruins his whole family to many times the extent something like this ruins a teen girl’s life.

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              Yeah, I agree, we shouldn’t ruin the boys life, we should ruins his whole family to many times the extent something like this ruins a teen girl’s life.

              You’re a fucking asshole. This isn’t like prosecuting parents who let a school shooter have access to guns. The interenet is everywhere. Parents are responsible for bringing up their children to be socially responsible. A thirteen year old kid is anything but responsible (I mean their mentality / maturity, I’m not giving them a pass).

              Go hang out with conservatives who want more policing. Over here, we’ll talk about social programs you fucking prick.

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        Yes, absolutely. But with recognition that a thirteen year old kid isn’t a predator but a horny little kid. I’ll let others determine what that punishment is, but I don’t believe it’s prison. Community service maybe. Written apology. Stuff like that. Second offense, ok, we’re ratcheting up the punishment, but still not adult prison.

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          I did say equitable punishment. Equivalent. Whatever.

          A written apology is a cop-out for the damage this behaviour leaves behind.

          Something tells me you don’t have teenage daughters.

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            No kids. That’s why I say others should write the punishments. A written apology wasn’t meant as the only punishment. It was in addition to community service and other stipulations.