As an American, I assure you there was no foreign interference needed in making my neighbors awful people.
I assure you, their number 1 tactic is finding people on the fence of being evil scumbags and giving them a nice push in the wrong direction. And this isn’t a recent event. They have been doing this at least since Soviet Union got started.
Anyone who has ever wondered what the fuck happened to the brains of their parents, grandparents or even your own brain in the last 20 years. Most probably this.
Are these “Russians” in the room with you right now? What kind of things do they tell you to do? Do you feel like you’re going to act on these voices’ commands?
Hey, how many USSR movies worked with the military and China as well? Oh shit, I know what the answer will be already so don’t respond, it’s just a deflection guaranteed.
How many of those movies has the average American seen? The only one I can think of is Come and See, (and that’s more of an artistic movie about the horrors of war) and I’m aware of the Wolf Warrior movies but I haven’t actually seen them. Otherwise, I don’t think I could even name another, much less be influenced by them, and that’s more than most people could.
Or are you not claiming that Russian and Chinese movies have a comparable influence on Americans as American movies? In that case, it’s just a whataboutism, not relevant to the discussion. We’re talking about who has influence over Americans.
Boy, you purposely are being obtuse. The propaganda movies are as influential in their respective countries as the USA is in the USA. It’s been the history of cinema for a country to work with cinema to make pro-military propaganda so no one country is innocent of doing or have done this. Ukraine does it and I show more support for them fighting an imperialist invader who made arguments later for their invasion. The thing people like you don’t seem to get, I don’t like the USA either, or the permanent UN Security Council members for that fact. No country is innocent of criticism how it has handled itself in the past and presently. If you think anyone is innocent, I bid you farewell and go back to the hole you crawled out of.
You seem to think this conversation is about whether these countries are better than those countries, but that’s not what we were talking about, at all. I swear, y’all never listen to what we actually say and just fill in our side of the debate with whatever the hypothetical tankie that exists only in your mind said.
I’m not dick-waving about this country is better than that country because it doesn’t influence it’s people. I am simply pointing out that the US government has far more capacity to influence Americans than any other government in the world does. That’s it. Whether other countries also influence their citizens the same way has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what I actually said.
“No one country is innocent of doing or have done this,” yeah and I never said anything to contradict that at all.
“If you think anyone is innocent,” I don’t, but thank you for asking instead of just putting words in my mouth.
We don’t because it’s usually bunk. I severely doubt you just happened upon this conversation chain out of chance. I’ve had five different .ml users start arguing with me at once. That’s not coincidence and honestly the best thing you can do is place me on ignore.
Born too late to witness the greatness of Sergei Bondarchuk, born too early to witness truly democratic artistic expression. Born just in time to witness Avengers Assemble™ episode 17 The Return of WonderIronThanos.
I assure you, their number 1 tactic is finding people on the fence of being evil scumbags and giving them a nice push in the wrong direction. And this isn’t a recent event. They have been doing this at least since Soviet Union got started.
Anyone who has ever wondered what the fuck happened to the brains of their parents, grandparents or even your own brain in the last 20 years. Most probably this.
Are these “Russians” in the room with you right now? What kind of things do they tell you to do? Do you feel like you’re going to act on these voices’ commands?
Seems like not all bots got shutdown huh. Even got enough bandwidth credits for a little gif? How cute.
No not right now because most of their fucking bot farms are on fire. You seem to be up somehow, but I can help with that.
Are you threatening to bomb that guy? What the fuck?
Damn, if they can wield that much influence from another country, just imagine how much the US government is capable of shaping people’s views.
Did you know at least 6 Marvel movies have worked closely with American military?
Sure a random thread on reddit or lemmy is the real propaganda.
Edit : Unless of course it’s the make believe parliament game on /pol/.
Edit 2: It’s really getting hard to keep track of what’s propaganda and what’s not these days.
Hey, how many USSR movies worked with the military and China as well? Oh shit, I know what the answer will be already so don’t respond, it’s just a deflection guaranteed.
How many of those movies has the average American seen? The only one I can think of is Come and See, (and that’s more of an artistic movie about the horrors of war) and I’m aware of the Wolf Warrior movies but I haven’t actually seen them. Otherwise, I don’t think I could even name another, much less be influenced by them, and that’s more than most people could.
Or are you not claiming that Russian and Chinese movies have a comparable influence on Americans as American movies? In that case, it’s just a whataboutism, not relevant to the discussion. We’re talking about who has influence over Americans.
Boy, you purposely are being obtuse. The propaganda movies are as influential in their respective countries as the USA is in the USA. It’s been the history of cinema for a country to work with cinema to make pro-military propaganda so no one country is innocent of doing or have done this. Ukraine does it and I show more support for them fighting an imperialist invader who made arguments later for their invasion. The thing people like you don’t seem to get, I don’t like the USA either, or the permanent UN Security Council members for that fact. No country is innocent of criticism how it has handled itself in the past and presently. If you think anyone is innocent, I bid you farewell and go back to the hole you crawled out of.
You seem to think this conversation is about whether these countries are better than those countries, but that’s not what we were talking about, at all. I swear, y’all never listen to what we actually say and just fill in our side of the debate with whatever the hypothetical tankie that exists only in your mind said.
I’m not dick-waving about this country is better than that country because it doesn’t influence it’s people. I am simply pointing out that the US government has far more capacity to influence Americans than any other government in the world does. That’s it. Whether other countries also influence their citizens the same way has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what I actually said.
“No one country is innocent of doing or have done this,” yeah and I never said anything to contradict that at all.
“If you think anyone is innocent,” I don’t, but thank you for asking instead of just putting words in my mouth.
We don’t because it’s usually bunk. I severely doubt you just happened upon this conversation chain out of chance. I’ve had five different .ml users start arguing with me at once. That’s not coincidence and honestly the best thing you can do is place me on ignore.
Born too late to witness the greatness of Sergei Bondarchuk, born too early to witness truly democratic artistic expression. Born just in time to witness Avengers Assemble™ episode 17 The Return of WonderIronThanos.