• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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      Bazzite, Kubuntu, and Fedora are all great options for you. Bazzite can boot into a SteamOS-like dedicated gaming mode. If you want more flexibility over your system, Kubuntu or Fedora are both great choices. Since Proton works on all Linux flavors, there’s no need to wait. You can get the Windows-free gaming experience now.

      If you are completely new to Linux, try Kubuntu first. If you want your system to feel more game-centric, choose Bazzite. If you want a little more control and freedom over your system, choose Fedora.

      It’s hard to go wrong with Linux. The most impactful choice is your desktop environment (DTE), and all of the ones I mentioned use KDE Plasma 6+, which is fantastic. It’s like what Windows could be if Microsoft wasn’t so aggressively anti-UX.

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        Tbh I don’t agree at all that kubuntu is easier for beginners, that may have been the case 5 or so years ago, but bazzite and aurora are the best now, also there’s literally no reason to use fedora over bazzite or aurora since they’re literally the same thing except with some added packages and important fixes (especially the ffmpeg fix that makes twitch work)

        I honestly think ubuntu based distros are an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

        I think only immutable kde distros should be recommended to beginners as a result, the mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

        How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

        Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

        I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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          I like Fedora simply because you don’t have to take extra steps to remove Snaps. I’ve gone from being fan of Ubuntu to avoiding it because of the way Canonical has behaved in recent years and the negative impacts that behavior has had on the distro (and community). It feels immoral preferring a Red Hat/IBM distro over Ubuntu, but unfortunately it’s the better product.

          I recommend Kubuntu to new users simply because the documentation, website, and learning material is better. Bazzite is also not without it’s quirks, especially if you want to start learning more about Linux in general and branching out beyond gaming.

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        How is HDR support? One of the only reasons I updated to Win 11 was Auto HDR features.

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      Unless you specifically want Steam OS’s gaming mode, any Linux distro (Arch definitely) with KDE Plasma 6 will give you more or less the same experience. Not that I don’t think Valve should do so.

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        With the same game comparability as steamos? Idk much about this stuff…

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          Bazzite is basically just Steam OS but support for more hardware. And easier to extend. You could drop it on your steam deck and if you don’t muck around in the terminal you probably wouldn’t know.

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          With the same game comparability as steamos?

          They all work with wine. Only for you I will spin up an image of AmongOS and Hannah Montana Linux with a flatpak of Lutris and play cyberpunk on there

          And I already know, it won’t change shit if its Debian 2, as long as a flatpak of lutris runs on it, it will have the same performance as with steam OS

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            it won’t change shit if its Debian 2

            So at best kernel 2.2.xx good luck with the hardware support. Flatpack is not a solution for everything.

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          Pretty much. If it works for the steam deck it should work for the desktop. There are some exceptions for some brand new games. But if you want to wait a week or two for new releases usually it’s fine.

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      Why wait for steam os? Bazzite and others already do everything steam os does and probably better and more.

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        I agree but steam OS is going to be a hell of a lot more popular and have more support as a result.

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          Will it though? I love what Valve has done for the linux community. But didn’t they abandon Steam OS 2 too? Why will it be better this time? I feel like they would only give official support for handhelds/systems that are officially released with it.

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            It’s normal for old versions of an OS to stop receiving support after a new version replaces it. That’s not unique to steam OS. if I install an old version of bazzite, or any deprecated Linux kernel, modern apps will not necessarily be made backwards compatible with it.

            But steam OS will have more installs than any other Linux variant just because of Valve’s brand recognition alone and the FOSS community will target it as their primary platform for software compatibility as a result.

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              This is the big reason why I want to hop aboard an Arch SteamOS desktop train. If I ever have to wrangle with technical issues, or goddess forbid, the terminal, I want the documentation to be there to walk me through it. My first attempt at transitioning over to Linux Mint didn’t work out, since there were technical issues that got in the way of fully replacing Windows 11.

              Having reliable compatibility reduces the need for documentation, and a standardized platform for the documentation helps even more.

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              Its normal when there is a new release. But steam OS 2 was abandoned long before version 3 came around.

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                What’s important right now is converting people away from windows. I expect Steam OS 3 to be much more beginner friendly than any other distro. If an average PC gamers first impression of linux is constant troubleshooting, they’re not going to try another kernel; they’re just going to go back to windows.

                Even if valve stops support later, they will have still introduced many people to linux in a beginner friendly way and wrestled the gaming ecosystem out of microsoft’s grip that much more.

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        Other Linux distro can’t compete with valve. Valve constantly updates their OS and drivers. There is no way other distro can compete.

        I have a steam deck. Valve releases updates almost once a month.

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          Other distros have been competing forever. SteamOS is built on top of Arch, which updates multiple times per day. Valve pushes a lot of updates tied to the Steam experience, some of them are also shared with normal Linux desktops, so that makes it somewhat of a moot argument. I run normal Linux (Fedora Workstation) and play games with Steam, and they run the same as my Deck, even day 1 releases.

          Like, I get the appeal of a Valve-blessed Linux flavor, but as far as their stack goes, the Linux side of SteamOS is somewhat conservative (not many updates) and limited (due to read-only OS images) compared to normal Linux distros and the gaming side also gets pushed to all Linux distros. As a Steam Deck owner, I personally think Bazzite is more interesting for a real world gaming desktop usage than SteamOS, where you can’t even print documents because it lacks the required stack!

          To show how conservative it is, I call recall a few examples:

          • The desktop side, which runs the KDE Plasma desktop, was stuck on version 5.27 for ages and just got recently updated to 6.2. Meanwhile, Arch and Fedora/Bazzite are rocking Plasma 6.3 and should receive Plasma 6.4 in a month or so, pretty much day one.
          • The Linux kernel (although patched and tweaked) in SteamOS was still on 6.5 until a few days ago. It was bumped to 6.11 with SteamOS 3.7. Meanwhile, Arch and Fedora have been on 6.14 for weeks now, with new hardware support, performance fixes for existing hardware and some new features.
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          Arch releases updates every day (sometimes multiple times per day). Idk about Bazzite’s cadence, but I’m guessing it’s at least weekly, if not daily.