You have to consider only two things really:
- Maybe, just maybe, something which was designed to kill the bacteria and remove the residue of things that came in contact with fresh or at most rotten food, is also totally effective at doing the same for things that came in contact with fecal mater and with toiled cleaning chemicals. Or maybe not.
- Do you for a toilet brush need the level of cleaniness achieved by a dishwasher, and if not are there other reasonably simple methods to achieve the required level of cleaniness for it?
In the absence of actual scientific studies that provided an answer for the “is a household dishwater entirelly effective for fecal mater and toilet cleaning chemicals contamination” question with a high degree of certainty, the consideration on whether to do this or not boils down to: “Is a dishwasher level of cleaniness for a toilet brush worth the risk that the dishwasher might not deal with fecal mater or toilet cleaning chemical contamination correctly?”
Personally, I don’t think it’s worth the risk.
This is far too reasonable of a comment for shitposting. I’m going to need someone to shit this up a bit, please.
Either your toilet brush is too clean, or your dishes are too shitty. Stop it with your nasty ass dishwasher.
That’s better, thanks.
This is a very reasonable post.
Here is another reasonable approach which is simpler. Isolation and containment is the best way to prevent spread of bacteria from one place to another. Minimising taking any items from the toilet to the kitchen, minimises the spread of bacteria between the two places.
So without any scientific study or evidence specifically to dishwashers and toilet brushes, we can make a reasonable assumption that taking a toilet brush from the toilet to the kitchen is a bad idea and should be avoided.
I doubt this is real, but if it were and I were the poster I would also isolate and contain that home. I would erradocate the movement of me from any other location to that home.
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I mean… that’s putting a lot of faith in the dishwasher to work properly every single time you do it. I don’t know if I’ve got enough trust in the 1995 beige “landlord special” under my counter right now.
I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you’d wanna stick your hands in.
The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.
Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.
That’s not the problem, the types of bacteria and parasites is. They’re not exactly the same.
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It’s supposed to get hot enough to kill. You’re putting a lot of faith into a machine that doesn’t get much maintence done on it.
If my dishwasher does not heat sufficiently, it may take me years to discover that with no ill effects to me.
If a poop dishwasher is not heating correctly, it may take them many rounds of illnesses before they connect the dots. That is because they’re putting poop into the dishwasher which sprays liquefied poop onto all their dishes and flatware, but never sanitizes anything.
Tldr, don’t put poopy objects into the dishwasher.
Yes Eco program at 45*c will kill those bacterias /s
There’s a really good short form podcast by a couple food scientists in the USA and they covered this one saying not risky. https://www.riskyornot.co/episodes/548-cleaning-the-toilet-brushes-in-the-dishwasher-top-rack
Even if true, what if someone said they shit on their plates, throw the shit in the toilet, them dishwasher the plates.
Would you conceptually still be ok eating off that plate? Even if you knew for fact it had gone through the machine?
Yes, I have eaten at a restaurant before.
Not what I asked. You, me, kitchen, shit plate.
Yes. I would be happy to eat off a clean plate that once had shit on it.
Truly we live in a society
Huh don’t have time to listen to the whole thing rn but wonder what their rationale is 🤔
It’s been a bit, but if I recall, it’s that the dishwasher already reliably cleans unsanitary things that are loads more biologically risky like cutting boards used for raw meat or potentially contaminated with things like Norovirus.
I have never even once cleaned a cutting board in the dishwasher…
You should, heating it for three hours is better than sanitary wipes.
Sanity wipes?
What are people talking about here, I wash my cutting boards by hand in the kitchen sink, it has worked well for decades
I always do lmao, at least the non-wood ones.
Running plastic cutting boards in the dishwasher is less weird to me, but in general it is a weird concept to me, it was just never done at home or at any place I did the dishes.
Not gonna lie your sister might have some mental illness, let’s consider for a minute that the dishwasher might be very very good at cleaning I still would never do this due to the gross factor. Sorry mate but I’m not gonna put anything that goes in the bathroom anyway near things that food goes on to!!
You know how you wash your dishes to keep the leftover bits of food on them from crusting onto them in the dish washer?
That, like ten times first, maybe twenty.
She should install a dishwasher in the bathroom
Use the sanitize and steam settings, tho that might melt the shitty plastic on most toilet brushes… But at least you don’t have to worry about living bacteria
Still not doing it. And not all dishwashers have that setting (mine doesn’t).
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn’t be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.
But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.
I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong…
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.
First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is “logically” equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn’t a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.
Human shit also doesn’t only contain bacteria. There’s an estimated 100 million - 1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of wet shit and there’s still around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let’s not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.
Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for days on end would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.
This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can’t be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They’re disinformation and in some cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.
Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be. Cite your sources.
I didn’t say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don’t put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said “eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish” nor did I say anything close to that. I said “both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn’t do it anyway”.
You literally said ‘isnt much better’. A magnitude of a few thousand is ‘much better’ in my opinion.
Noone likes being criticized but this could be an opportunity to embrace it and learn something.
Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes.
No they don’t, don’t project onto the world what you think is normal. Everyone I know washes up or puts the dishwasher on straight after they’ve eaten, then puts their dishes away when they’re clean and dried.
Wait, you know folks who regularly run the dishwasher each day?
I do yes
Wow. It usually takes my partner and I two or three days to fill it. I should look up the specifics of the model and see if the energy saving option is worth it for small loads
Ah that’s the issue. The people I know have 2 kids, so it takes half the time to fill the dishwasher.
Personally I only run the dishwasher when we have people round for food and drinks. Otherwise I wash up the old fashioned way because it saves power.
yay, the brutal science man to the rescue!
I don’t know what “brutal science” is but I do know that the scientific process was used in many peer-reviewed studies to understand what lives in our shit. That holds a lot more weight for me than what an anonymous poster feels might be right in regards to the same subject matter.
Furthermore, the greater concept here is that we as a species have access to actual information by powers of magnitude more then ever before in human history and yet a significant percentage of the population believe that vaccines cause autism because a washed up Playboy bunny repeated what she read from a discredited “doctor” and it caught on like wildfire.
People in general too often believe what they hear or read without legitimate evidence. Disinformation exists at best because people unconsciously believe their opinions are just as valid as peer-reviewed research, and at worst to weaponize information for personal gain. Whatever the intent it’s a plague on humanity and I won’t apologize for calling it out when seen. If that’s too “brutal” for you I hope you can get to a place where reading cited information in response to opinion doesn’t disrupt your sensitivities.
I bet they wash the poop knife in there too
Where’s the No Poop Challenge guy when you need him.
What the fuck is wrong with people.
how the fuck do you lack this much common sense? to put your fucking shitty toilet brush where you put your eating utensils?
Maybe it’s because people understand the germ theory of disease
They’re still not the same germs. No dishwasher goes over 90 or 95°C (household ones). There is bacteria in feces that can survive that temperature. Not to mention parasite spores/eggs, some can easily withstand even 150°C.
You are forgetting caustic bleaching chemicals… I mean it’s gross but also hygienic
But are you going to add bleach to your dishwasher when you run the toilet brush, then do dishes normally on the next cycle?
Seems like you’re opening a whole new can of health-hazardous worms with that plan.
Automatic dishwasher powder is bleach and caustic
True, but it’s not chlorine bleach. Which is what I want my toilet brush to go through.
I once asked my nephew about this - he worked in a hotel back then. Yes, indeed, they clean toilet brushes in a dishwasher.
But it is a separate one that is only for toilet brushes and brush holders, nothing else.
I worked at a restaurant in the kitchen. We had a place on the wall to hang brushes. The GREEN brushes were to be used for food/prep areas only. The white brushes were for cleaning toilets, and other filthy places.
The white brushes were soaked in buckets and rinsed/washed thoroughly in a slop sink, then later, put in the racks that push through the dishwasher conveyor belt that ran through the machine if I recall correctly. It’s been more than 20 years
Did you have a black hook for the poop knives, also?
My mother used to recycle her douche bottles, throw it in with the regular dishes, and make her own. Guess who always had to wash the dishes…
Your mom didn’t really think things through, did she…
Yikes. I would never eat there again!
Logically, the heat used for drying should kill any germs. But why risk it.
I rinse mine in the toilet bowl when it has bleach based toilet cleaner in it. That alone keeps them pretty clean.
I do that with my dishes too
And there’s the full-circle joke. Bravo. 👌
