• SpeedRunner@europe.pub
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    28 days ago

    That is an idealistic way to look at it. In practice, charging anytime a car is parked is expensive:

    1. Utility companies will often charge a premium on electricity spent during business hours. This alone makes it uneconomical to charge the car by day (eg while you’re at work).

    2. Charging on public infrastructure will often include a “convenience premium” - electricity will be more expensive than charging at home.

    3. A lot of the time charging will be limited by time, thus requiring you to go out of the office and move your car in the middle of work. Not possible for everyone.

    4. My experience is that “energy providers” discovered subscriptions. And charging “out of network” is mor expensive - especially important when traveling.

    Reality is that with an EV the only economical approach *today * is:

    • to charge it at home, at night
    • hopefully produce your own electricity, if you can (photovoltaic + battery)
    • use quick charge stations for longer drives

    If you can’t charge it at home (eg you live in a flat or an apartment complex), you’re basically effed.

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      28 days ago
      1. Depends on your utility plan and if it’s time based or not. The chargers at work are the same price from 7:00 to 22:00.
      2. Yes
      3. Depends on the office. Plenty of office parks don’t require you to move.
      4. I’ve avoided (as best I can) the “energy providers” that charge and extra fee just to charge. Obligatory fuck ChargePoint.

      I can’t charge at home (fuck you NJ) but still have two EVs that I take to the single public charger (limited to 2 hours) nearby because fuck gas powered cars.

      Maybe next time don’t make sweeping generalizations about things you personally haven’t experienced.

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        27 days ago

        Wh do you assume this is not from personal experience?

        These are all actual facts here in Europe.

        In other words: not all countries are the same.

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        28 days ago

        Answers “possibly” or just straight up “yes” to literally every point, and then criticizes them for generalizing.

        While EVs are 100% the way to go, acting as though the very real problems and drawbacks faced by real people don’t exist is disingenuous and just gives anti-EV people more ammo.

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            25 days ago

            Then why were your answers “Possibly, Yes, Possibly, Yes”?

            The problems being fixable by legislation a) doesn’t make them not problems and b) doesn’t mean they’ll actually be fixed by legislation.