I don’t expect most iPhone users to ever change their default settings, but it’s nice that it will be possible in a year.

Who knows, maybe one day you can run actual Firefox on them too? :p

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    Who knows, maybe one day you can run actual Firefox on them too? :p

    You could, in the EU. But as the EU is only a small portion of the market (Apple did not succeed as much with brainwashing here), Mozilla said it would be too costly to literally recreate FF from scratch for iOS, only for the EU market.

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      You know, I hadn’t realized this before. Thanks to Apple’s decade-long policy, alternative browsers for iOS literally don’t exist, they’ll have to be ported. It will take years for that to happen, if anybody even bothers. Well, Google will.

      And that’s how Apple will have managed to shoot themselves in the foot and have iOS fall under Chrome domination too.

      At this point if they were smart they would sponsor the ports of alternative browsers that are not Chrome, but I doubt they have it in them.

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        have iOS fall under Chrome domination too.

        Huh? Chrome is just Apple’s WebKit.

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          For now, but the EU will force Apple to allow non-WebKit engines on iOS. At which point only Google will have enough money to spare porting an entire engine to a small market.

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              One could ask you the same thing and it would be a more appropriately directed question. Chrome hasn’t been WebKit for literally years.

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                One could ask you the same thing and it would be a more appropriately directed question.

                Except they couldn’t because I made the point. Whereas you asked a random question.

                Chrome hasn’t been WebKit for literally years.

                Yes it has. And yes it is. A quick web search will clear that up for you. All browsers on iOS use the Safari WebKit engine.

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                  No shit Sherlock. If you made the same observation about Firefox it would be just as dumb. The whole point of this post is that other rendering engines van be ported to iOS now. It doesn’t matter one little bit what Apple forced yesterday and it certainly doesn’t mean Blink is WebKit today.

                  Oh look, a link from the quick Google search you didn’t do:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(browser_engine)

                  In gonna go ahead and block you now though, have a nice day.

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                    No shit Sherlock.

                    LOL what do you mean “no shit”? This contradicts what you were saying moments ago…

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      Is there something I’m missing? I have Firefox on my iPhone, I live in India. Is it not “proper” Firefox or is Firefox now available in US App Store?

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        Any browser on iOS/iPadOS etc. is just a reskin of Safari. It might add new features - VPN, closing-all-tabs-feature, sync - but the underlying browser engine is still webkit, including all its limitations. Those limitations are, for example, limited debugging and no plugin support. Whereas I can install almost all desktop addons on my FF nightly on Android, I can’t even have adblock on “Firefox” iOS. And even after Apple opened up the browser stuff, so FF can now be based on gecko, Mozilla would need to create and maintain a whole new App - for the EU, because other countries won’t get those possibilities ever.

        So FF on my iPad is just a way for me to access website-only stuff. In my Android phone, I also use eg. youtube/piped, deepl, maps in FF. That would be a pain on iOS due to missing Addons.

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        All browsers on iOS are basically reskinned versions of Safari since they all have to use WebKit