I believe you don’t understand how Hitler’s mind worked. He was clearly pro-life, just not pro-every-life. Similar to what happens on a daily basis in a lot of countries.
Ethnic cleansing was done because of ethnicity, not because of age.
Also about the concentration camps, I don’t know enough about this part. Was it a clear order and idea of Hitler? Or was the idea to get rid of jews, but the infrastructure was not ready for this amount of people, and thus someone like Goebbels brought the idea of just getting rid of them locally?
I remember reading somewhere that at the beginning, they tried to deport the people, but soon realized they were not able to do that in a timely manner.
PS: I had to puke a little describing Hitler as pro-life under the circumstances, unfortunately it is technocally right. He loved people, also children. Just hated jews.
The Wannsee Conference didn’t contain Hitler, but did include many higher ups making the explicit plans for the Shoah. It wasn’t Hitler’s first plan, deportation was, but any reasonable understanding of his long term plans would require eventual extermination. He was invading places he had sent Jewish people to.
Also non-Jewish victims didn’t get the attempted deportation. Disabled Germans, criminals, communists, queer people, etc faced brutal prison labor and eventually extermination.
Ultimately, Hitler didn’t give orders in a way where you can say “he ordered this to happen”. He made his desires clear, and let the party vie for his favor. Had they not orchestrated the Shoah, party members would have been replaced with those who would
I’m not a historian so I can’t really debate this. Of course Hitler was selectively pro-life, the whole nazi shit is exactly that (and why many back then didn’t want to see what happened initially - after all the Nazis gave white people “Kraft durch Freude” and holidays for their first time). Same crap happens in the USA right now, and of course many other countries. Though fortunately for democratic US-citizens still fighting the Trump regime is far less competent than the OG Nazis.
“kid-friendly” is a term encompassing all kids though. If you’re unfriendly to some kids you’re not kid-friendly. This applies to nazis, racists, religious assholes, ableists etc. all alike.
I believe you don’t understand how Hitler’s mind worked. He was clearly pro-life, just not pro-every-life. Similar to what happens on a daily basis in a lot of countries. Ethnic cleansing was done because of ethnicity, not because of age.
Also about the concentration camps, I don’t know enough about this part. Was it a clear order and idea of Hitler? Or was the idea to get rid of jews, but the infrastructure was not ready for this amount of people, and thus someone like Goebbels brought the idea of just getting rid of them locally? I remember reading somewhere that at the beginning, they tried to deport the people, but soon realized they were not able to do that in a timely manner.
PS: I had to puke a little describing Hitler as pro-life under the circumstances, unfortunately it is technocally right. He loved people, also children. Just hated jews.
The Wannsee Conference didn’t contain Hitler, but did include many higher ups making the explicit plans for the Shoah. It wasn’t Hitler’s first plan, deportation was, but any reasonable understanding of his long term plans would require eventual extermination. He was invading places he had sent Jewish people to.
Also non-Jewish victims didn’t get the attempted deportation. Disabled Germans, criminals, communists, queer people, etc faced brutal prison labor and eventually extermination.
Ultimately, Hitler didn’t give orders in a way where you can say “he ordered this to happen”. He made his desires clear, and let the party vie for his favor. Had they not orchestrated the Shoah, party members would have been replaced with those who would
Thank you so much for this insightful history lesson!
Yes.
You took my reply way too seriously.
I’m not a historian so I can’t really debate this. Of course Hitler was selectively pro-life, the whole nazi shit is exactly that (and why many back then didn’t want to see what happened initially - after all the Nazis gave white people “Kraft durch Freude” and holidays for their first time). Same crap happens in the USA right now, and of course many other countries. Though fortunately for democratic US-citizens still fighting the Trump regime is far less competent than the OG Nazis.
“kid-friendly” is a term encompassing all kids though. If you’re unfriendly to some kids you’re not kid-friendly. This applies to nazis, racists, religious assholes, ableists etc. all alike.
I see, that was some neatly placed irony :)