I don’t want him to die. I want him to be sent to jaill and see himself as a failure. I want him to be sued out of his fortune. I want him to see his offsprings are consider a joke.
I agree wholeheartedly, but I’m a realist, a pragmatist, and I’ve already accepted that meaningful consequences for Trump are simply not gonna happen outside of another massive secret service screw-up. He will, unfortunately and almost certainly, either die in office of natural causes or so soon after leaving it (whether he leaves it as scheduled remains to be seen) that actual consequences will never materialize for him.
I am, however, slightly more hopeful that his administration, full of younger men with ambitions of their own, that they end up in tiny, grey, concrete rooms for the rest of their natural lives for committing treason, at some point. Only slightly, though.
I’m still legitimately surprised Biden didn’t pardon Trump to “Let the nation heal”, though I guess slow walking his prosecution was his quiet verison of that
Except this time they won’t have to talk just their own citizens into that idea. A lot of countries are pissed at the US, and they won’t forget it anytime soon.
Tariffs, wars, insults and threats of invasion, those things will have to be addressed before the relationship can be mended.
This. The US of magastan are screwing over the whole world and not many are willing to keep going with this. Hell, even Italy’s Meloni, a fascist fuck that idolized the orange pedohitler, is starting to say that dealing with it is harder than she thought.
When the orange fuck finally croaks, there will be a worldwide party and many of the assholes in that administration will realize that if they ever leave the power, they will face several consequences because the world will demand them if the US wants to be considered relevant again.
The definition of treason would need to be redefined unfortunately. I agree but, due to these same issues they deliberately defined what treason is in the constitution and it requires an act of war or assisting/aiding a known enemy to the country. It’s defined as an “only” which prevents it from being expanded.
This was intentional as they didn’t want treason to be used like how it did with Britain where they would use treason as a reason to silence dissidents, but it causes anything that uses treason as a crime to have a really high bar that is unlikely to ever actually be met. There’s still argument that trump hasen’t committed treason, and that’s with his direct ties and friendships with russia.
All depends if they are going to still sit on the hypothetical moral throne again. Thats why nothing gets done with the party, they go off a “well that happened but we can’t stoop to their level” style policy, so with every step forward its 15 steps back.
Personally I hope they do hard focus it but, I also hope it doesn’t become the running headline for their next cycle they get in, as they need to fix the fundamental issues with the system that allowed this first since a trial like that prosecution will easily last more than the length of a single term.
America will learn from this just like how all the school shootings made them rethink their gun laws, you know like how Covid made them rethink having healthcare be privatized.
I don’t want him to die. I want him to be sent to jaill and see himself as a failure. I want him to be sued out of his fortune. I want him to see his offsprings are consider a joke.
I want him to suffer.
Then he can die.
“When you are broken, and Mar-A-Lago is ashes, then you have my permission to die”
I agree wholeheartedly, but I’m a realist, a pragmatist, and I’ve already accepted that meaningful consequences for Trump are simply not gonna happen outside of another massive secret service screw-up. He will, unfortunately and almost certainly, either die in office of natural causes or so soon after leaving it (whether he leaves it as scheduled remains to be seen) that actual consequences will never materialize for him.
I am, however, slightly more hopeful that his administration, full of younger men with ambitions of their own, that they end up in tiny, grey, concrete rooms for the rest of their natural lives for committing treason, at some point. Only slightly, though.
Democrats: Ha! Just you wait! We’re so ready to “look to the future, not the past” and let them get away with everything like we always do!
I’m still legitimately surprised Biden didn’t pardon Trump to “Let the nation heal”, though I guess slow walking his prosecution was his quiet verison of that
Except this time they won’t have to talk just their own citizens into that idea. A lot of countries are pissed at the US, and they won’t forget it anytime soon.
Tariffs, wars, insults and threats of invasion, those things will have to be addressed before the relationship can be mended.
This. The US of magastan are screwing over the whole world and not many are willing to keep going with this. Hell, even Italy’s Meloni, a fascist fuck that idolized the orange pedohitler, is starting to say that dealing with it is harder than she thought.
When the orange fuck finally croaks, there will be a worldwide party and many of the assholes in that administration will realize that if they ever leave the power, they will face several consequences because the world will demand them if the US wants to be considered relevant again.
The definition of treason would need to be redefined unfortunately. I agree but, due to these same issues they deliberately defined what treason is in the constitution and it requires an act of war or assisting/aiding a known enemy to the country. It’s defined as an “only” which prevents it from being expanded.
This was intentional as they didn’t want treason to be used like how it did with Britain where they would use treason as a reason to silence dissidents, but it causes anything that uses treason as a crime to have a really high bar that is unlikely to ever actually be met. There’s still argument that trump hasen’t committed treason, and that’s with his direct ties and friendships with russia.
Thankfully (or maybe unfortunately is a better word for it), they’ve done a lot more illegal things than treason.
I think democrats have more than enough things to prosecute them on if they want to. Real question is if democratic LEADERSHIP wants that.
All depends if they are going to still sit on the hypothetical moral throne again. Thats why nothing gets done with the party, they go off a “well that happened but we can’t stoop to their level” style policy, so with every step forward its 15 steps back.
Personally I hope they do hard focus it but, I also hope it doesn’t become the running headline for their next cycle they get in, as they need to fix the fundamental issues with the system that allowed this first since a trial like that prosecution will easily last more than the length of a single term.
That’ll never happen
Same, I want America to learn from this and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Dying serves nothing.
The words “America” and “learning” are basically antithetical at this point.
Nothing will be learned from all this. They’ll elect some new republican monster sometime in the 2030s if not earlier.
America will learn from this just like how all the school shootings made them rethink their gun laws, you know like how Covid made them rethink having healthcare be privatized.
Which is to say not at all.
I’m American in a purple state, send help.
Unfortunately there’s about as much chance of that happening as Hillary going to jail like Trump promised.
I want his whole family dead while he stays alive so that we can torture him and his secret service buddies