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As AI tech companies increasingly buy and destroy books to feed to their AI models, Anna’s Archive is calling for volunteers to help preserve them for the public record.
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Getting rid of physical copies of books so we can be monthly subscription slaves, disgusting
I own some rare books but no book scanner. What should I do?
Those who want to conduct large-scale scans and upload many titles can reach out to the archive for support, as the archive says that it “can help pay for the scanning fees and other rewards.”
Hmm, it’s just a few books but I do think they’re pretty rare. Not something I’m willing to send away. I wonder if a library would be willing to help?
My local library has some large format scanners. I’ve considered using them to do my photo albums. I have the individual photos scanned and backed up, but the layout and margin notes are worth preserving also.
I agree about not destroying books, but Anna’s archive is ok with providing all of their info to llms
https://web.archive.org/web/20260305153357/https://annas-archive.gd/blog/llms-txt.html
Not like it’s their books to begin with. It’s all available as torrents
Eh, perfect is the enemy of good. I’ll take the wins we can get. It’s not like having to buy the books is gonna stop the biggest offenders from burning investor money (along with the books).
The defeat of LLMs isn’t gonna come on that front. Let the cultists believe that more words will somehow become more than words. Their silicon gods run on power and water. That’s where they’re most vulnerable.
It’s not necessarily trying to stop them burning the books, just stop their ability to monopolise the knowledge, that’s their aim, lock the knowledge behind a subscription, Anna’s archive will always be available for all, so why pay for their subscription if its available for free.
I am all up for starving machine learning of new knowledge but I view this as the least friction path. Otherwise, if the machines try to brute force their entry, what harm can kt cause?
Anna’s Archive says ‘time is running out’ as ‘knowledge is permanently monopolized on private servers’
Not only that, of course, but easily edited. It’s a “mandala effect” generator. AKA modern gaslighting. They name the thing, point to legitimate examples, then abuse our new “understanding” to cover their crimes. 1984 indeed.
Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia
They’re destroying everything like locusts
Fucking scanning books without destroying them, the philistines! /s
Is this gif from that tom hanks movie?
Yeah it’s Toy Story 3
Remember, USA and it’s AI companies did that.
Yet your countries keep helping and benefit almost like this is a global class war.
Ah the American dream. Be greedy, selfish and only care about yourself.
“It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it”
Last time I checked, no other country(apart from Russia) wanted to burn rare books and destroy the world.
Well, there was that one time.in Germany. I wonder if there ate any other similarities with current US “leadership” and those guys.
Any reputable orgs I can donate to for assisting the cause? I just don’t feel I have the means otherwise to make a dent in the buying and preservation.
Perhaps there is a public library in your area that accepts donations? The one I live by is STARVING for support, they accept books, old computers, anything.
They do good work for the community too, like free tech literacy classes, chess for kids, etc.
But if you are dead set on an online NGO, then maybe archive.org? You have probably heard about their Wayback Machine, but they preserve books and other media too.
Ahh, good call. On it. Thanks!
I love where the headline cuts of:
knowledge is permanent - ly monopolized on private servers
So, my question is, of all these books being scanned and then destroyed, aren’t there many more copies of these books? And BTW, knowledge isn’t permanent. It can be lost.
If you had clicked on the article before commenting instead of just reading the headline, you’d have seen that it was truncated on the lemmy post
And if you had read the small number of other comments before commenting instead of just reading the headline, you’d have seen this correction already be posted: https://lemmy.world/comment/25456917
When someone can’t answer a question a common response to change the subject. Do you have an answer to my question?
They just cut and bin the books after they’ve been scanned, the bins are taken to the local disposal, most municipalities have a garbage dump, some burn the trash.
An ai trained on unique data is more valuable if you don’t share the data it was trained on to your competition, your LLM gains an edge.
If I found a unique handwritten book from the 18th century, than I proceed to read it and memorise then burn it, I’ll be the only one to posses the knowledge of it.
There are very few, if any, rare, one of a kind books that would go through this process. If one of these books were scanned for an LLM it would be done delicately in a more time consuming manner and the book would be returned.
Anyone know any good book scanners was looking around and not sure what i should get.
I don’t know about buying, but the ones I have seen basically hold the book open at a 45 degreeish angle, to not damage the spine. Then you press the pages with a 45 degree set of glass plates. The actual “scan” is a camera of some kind that slodes back.and forth between the two halves on a mount.
Ages ago I had mimicked the “overhead scanner” with a mounted digital camera, but now I’d go with a mounted smartphone + light bars + bluetooth photo trigger. Scrolling through Bezos’ was pretty depressing in terms of cost/quality and even a $150 device seemed like a repurposed webcam, with a sole non-free confirmed buyer saying it died after 3 months while freebies praise it lol. As long as you don’t scan drawings/designs/comic books - just set lights evenly and that’d be enough, and even moreso if you OCR it and turn a scan into an e-book where visual fidelity stops to matter.
same, probably when I’ll have time in an other dimension I would love to make my own
i would help you in that dimension as well lol
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