• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Well, theres a lot of experimentation with actual neural nets mimicing biology (or literally using biological neurons), and I think that could start to raise the spectre.

    World model research could be a significant component of that.

    In principle, OP is right; humans are just machines. All I constest is that transformers LLMs are even in the same ballpark, or possibly a path there… they are not.

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      12 hours ago

      Well it sounds like we agree then.

      I would think you would need actual biological structures to achieve sentience. That’s a lot different than what these people are calling AI tho.

      Edit: Also, if it is built out of natural biological pieces, at what point does it cease to be “artificial”?

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        11 hours ago

        Well biological structures can be replicated mechanically. So at risk of being pedantic, that’s not strictly true.

        I view “artificial” as just a term for conscious, purpose construction, whereas “natural” does not involve any conscious intelligence, as in “naturally occurring in nature.” But even that is a spectrum, I guess, with genetic manipulation, BCIs, all sorts of intermediate possibilities.

        I’d call a constructed, purely biological brain “artificial” because, even if it was grown naturally, it was built with conscious intent.

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          9 hours ago

          Correct, nothing is special about biological consciousness. If these exact functions are replicated mechanically/artificially, the outcomes would be the same.