• AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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      Except anyone doing a Google search is actually “entering a prompt to gemini”. Healthy skepticism is as valuable as gold in the time of AI and deepfakes.

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    Still shocked to see people in 202X pull up a web search and it’s Google 🤢

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    I suggest moving to any other search engine, if anyone hasn’t already. If duckduckgo isn’t to your taste, startpage.com uses Google’s database without pushing any of this nonsense.

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        I like this option a lot, but it’s way more frustrating to set this as a default search engine on (all?) mobile browsers than it should be.

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          You’ve probably done it already, but a quick howto for anyone else (on Firefox Mobile):

          • Three dot menu -> Settings -> Search -> Default search engine
          • Scroll to the bottom, press + Add search engine, put what you like in the Name box
          • in the search string URL box put this: https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=%25s
          • Press Save, then select your newly named option for normal and private tabs as you like.
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        Been using DDG for years now, and have since turned off AI. My only issue with DDG, StartPage, and Ecosia, is that they don’t do their own indexing (AFAIK). I still use them, but have been looking into Kagi and Brave (I know they have their own issues as well) as I think they index independently of Google or Microsoft. With not having an independent index, then the search engine is at the mercy of the companies that do. Such as is Google wants to remove or deprioritize something, it would also be seen in StartPage. Again, that my understanding and it may be wrong.

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          The largest fully independent generalist search engines are Yandex (which is no better than Google/Bing, unless you want something that doesn’t deprioritize sites for DMCA reasons) and Mojeek. You may want to read A look at search engines with their own indexes, although it’s about a year out of date now.

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        We started a year or two ago as well, but our son is autistic and it’s hard to get him to change. He finally seems to have settled in now.

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        I’ll probably end up going back to Kagi when I’m working again. Can’t justify the extra expenses right now between them and a few others I’d like to pay for.

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    Amazon has done something similar as well. When you search an item on it it now defaults to running it in their AI and then you need to click “show results” if you don’t wanna see the preview.

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      This infuriates me. I don’t give a fuck what your AI says. I’m also enraged because I canceled prime and they decided to renew it anyways

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        they need to be sued for deceptive marketing practices to be honest. The ways it tries to sneak you resubscribing to it without your knowledge is super deceptive. My gramp has accidentally subscribed at least 4 times now when he goes to place a normal order they have like 3 different locations that toggle on where you need to keep telling them no you don’t want a free trial, and then we don’t actually find out about it till months after because he is very old fashion and doesn’t always check things.

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      And even when you get past that, it takes some scrolling (or page-mangling with browser add-ons) to get past the sponsored garbage. They insert some of that in the actual results without telling you, too, I discovered today while doing another junk cleanup pass. I now have over thirty “kill anything matching this xpath” and two or three “set the height of this to zero pixels” directives for Amazon, making it one of the worst sites I can still be arsed to deal with at all.

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    I hit the same thing on git yesterday, used the “Main” search thing not realizing it was their copilot shit. it took ages to think, then spew out a pile of shit with the links to what I actually wanted buried in a wall of text - how the fuck is that better?

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      Copilot sneaking in is really obnoxious, and common.

      I just tried this prompt on Gemini and it worked really well:

      Give me search results like a 1999 Google search on the content of the modern web for: “your search terms here”

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    It makes sense that they did away with that button, since they long ago did away with the thing that button actually does.