cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/50398452
Just when you think @ZuckyZuck is finally out of ideas - to steal.
It starts to feel like even a weak LLM like MetaAI is more creative than him.
Maybe we already have created truly artificial intelligence because he is more of an SLM: a Small Language Model?
Yeah, the first time. After Goku trains in the 100x gravity room in the heaven spaceship, I seriously doubt it.
ok goku, you beat me… I do have a finite power limit
“ha!”
That’s what I haven’t understood about these debates. One of them supposedly has an infinite power source? That means they would win, de facto, no?
Anything finite is a drop in an endless ocean to anything infinite.
Prime is a different beast. He’s still silver-bronze age Superboy, with every bit of rediculous strength the plots of the 70’s had to offer. The dude can punch holes in reality and collide planets.
Goku though just needs a training arc to beat anybody.
Saitama would be a good one-one for SBP.
I see. So we’re taking different archetypes of the same character throughout their story progression, and we compare those directly?
I think I blend all the archetypes to just “Superman” and “Goku” in my head. So it made less sense.
‘Infinite strength’ has weird limits in fiction, but can usually be troped in three big, easy ways. The first is to threaten something that character cares deeply about. He may be invincible, but his world is not.
The other is to have them at limited potentials of that power, or limit them by their incompetence or inexperience. This is the Matthew Malloy or Scarlet Witch situation, they had/have power but are sometimes written with zero control of that power.
The last and easiest, is to use abilities that do not depend on strength. Strength is always troped by magic and telepathic users of at least some skill. Can’t kill what you’re fighting? Teleport it to hell! Trick its mind into fighting someone else. Trick it into thinking there’s nothing wrong, or Charles Xavier’s method, ‘you sleep now’.
Though there are sometimes limits to that. See - The Hulk.
“He’s too angry! His mind is madness!”
No idea why they never think of just levitating him. He can’t smash if he can’t get to the ground.
The Hulk can clap as a ranged attack, and as propulsion within an atmosphere.