No thanks, I’d rather use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS

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buy privacy-first community driven phone look inside closed source OS with no recovery image and outdated dependencies

  • jobbies@lemmy.zip
    41·
    1 day ago

    Still can’t get over the closed-source OS part. How do you know its privacy-first if you can’t verify it?

    • macros@feddit.org
      265·
      1 day ago

      But you can. Its Linux+GNU with a partially open, partially closed source UI. So you can run tracing utilities and other tools even wireshark!) to check that it values your privacy. That statement that it is a fully closed OS from the OP is wrong.

      • 0x0@infosec.pub
        232·
        1 day ago

        partially closed source

        I can’t think of a single scenario where this isn’t a red flag

      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
        134·
        1 day ago

        If there’s even one proprietary BLOB inserted into your open-source OS, you no longer have an open-source OS. Pity, I really really liked the SailfishOS look&feel when I tried it briefly in 2015ish.

        • macros@feddit.org
          9·
          1 day ago

          In that case hardware wise you are out of options. With the Librem 5 you get the closest. There you only have the CPU Microcode, Wifi and Bluetooth firmware, and the cellular modem & GNSS firmware.

          Software wise you have quite a few options, albeit few are usable as daily drivers.

          • Android drops out because it requires hardware with proprietary HAL. You would have to rewrite huge parts of the OS so that it runs without them.
          • Postmarket OS is your best bet for a somewhat usable experience
          • Many open source systems run, but calls are difficult to setup and partly unreliable.
          • Pure OS should fit your goal best, Mobian second.

          With a Droid 4 and Maemo Leste you can also get quite close but have no camera.

          • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
            3·
            21 hours ago

            I know about the options you mention and yes, Iam not happy with them. I currently use LineageOS on a shiftphone, and I know this is far from perfect. I tried postmarketos on a pinephone 2-3 years ago and the telephony/modem was not working yet, also the battery life was <24 hours on standby (i.e. never touching the phone even once) :(

            I wish… But currently there is no single complete open source option. And the Librem is interesting but coming from a de-facto totalitarian regime where I have trust issues. Especially because FISA court orders may prevent a company from disclosing that they have been legally forced to put a backdoot into their code.