• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Both China and the DPRK are socialist countries. Public ownership is the principal aspect of their economies, and the working classes control the state.

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        Doubt all you like, but both the WPK and CPC are overwhelmingly proletarian parties in states where the commanding heights and backbone of the economy are publicly owned at a minimum.

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          Public ownership + a proletarian ruling party ≠ the working class controls the state.

          State ownership is not automatically worker control. Even if a ruling party genuinely represents the working class, that does not by itself establish that ordinary workers possess meaningful power over the state or over the party leadership.