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In the past 3 years of using arch daily I’ve had to remove some renamed packages after an update once, thats about it
Has nix in their profile name and doesn’t use NixOS 🤔 /s
I wonder how many Arch haters have actually used Arch and ever ran into a breaking issue.
In my 8 years of daily driving Arch, I have had 1 ever, and it was only bad bc I didn’t know of BTRFS yet.
That happened 3 years in, and I went on a new distro-hopping spree in between, trying Fedora, NixOS, and others, and they had actual problems. Not “oh an update broke my system and was fixed in a day.”
So now I’ve been back on Arch for more years.
This whole “Arch is always breaking and takes so much maintenance” is a myth. In reality, Arch is the most stable, because it packages everything Vanilla. Everything works the “standard” way. On Debian, things decay, and then some stuff that’s new breaks with some stuff that’s old. On Fedora, there is a Red-Hat tax: configs in weird places, strange scripts, software missing from main repos (COPR sucks btw). On Arch, it’s just “normal” Linux; and that works
This mirrors my experience. I -Syu on a weekly basis, spend about 3 minutes doing pacnews, and then I’m done.
I don’t know where my Linux journey takes me next yet, but I only half way agree with this post. Arch is not quite as bad as this post makes it out to be, but there’s definitely always a bit of russian roulette involved in whether your system boots tomorrow or not (most of the time it does).
I just had my EndeavourOS (which is just a thin layer on top of Arch) kill itself and some weird-ass hyperspecific flags in the initrd build process brought it back to life.
Tho in the ~10 years of using arch now I’d say it was still preferable to the extremely stable experience, and I don’t think recommending Debian Stable is such a good idea either.
Yeah I could unfuck my EOS system with a bit of trickery, but once you get a good franken debian going, when that thing breaks there’s no rescue.
I’ve had some stuff on Arch break after an upgrade too because some config variable names changed. I rember when I had KDE with i3 going and one day the desktop was gone. Was just because the variable names in KDE had changed and a quick i3 config change was all that was needed.
Having to selectively install packages from other sources because the main repo will keep you on a too outdated version for 6 months is just not a viable idea in today’s world.There are luckily more than just these 2 options.
I’m not one of those Arch evangelicals, but this isn’t true at all now.
Arch really is the “Linux” of Linux users, complete with non users making shit up about it.
Why should my pc be stable if I’m not stable
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I have questions now, about myself
Ironically, it’s the rolling release that’s much more stable for me.
“Stable” distros often had a long and risky process of upgrading to the next major release.
Meanwhile, my Arch install has been pretty damn stable for over 10 years and went through several different PCs.
Fair, I’m always scared to upgrade to a new Debian release and the process is always painful. But that happens every couple years and I can take a week or two to look into it before doing it.
Every time I did pacman -Syu it was a Russian roulette. Most of the times everything was fine, but often enough there was a problem and something was broken and I had to spend a couple days figuring out what was the problem.
Same, and next year when bcachefs has nailed down the kinks it’ll be basically bullet proof with snapshotting prior to its daily updates.
Sure bcachefs sounds like a pretty good idea, especially since the author thinks his AI coding assistant is sentient and a “her”. What is it with file system maintainers and mental illness…
From what I know, the AI Assistant is the least of Kent Overstreet’s problems. If anything it’s a blessing he’s fixanting on a random number generator instead of risking becoming Hans Raiser 2.0.
proof is in the pudding as they say. sounds like you have your own issues.
Why bcachefs over btrfs?
https://bartosz.fenski.pl/modern-fs-benchmark/ benchmarks say it all.
I’ve been on ZFS since CachyOS made it easy to use.
You upgrade?
Sincerely, a Gentoo user.
I boot my arch laptop once in a blue moon and update it. Its not 2002 anymore.
I use Debian on my homelab servers (Ubuntu when I have to for some reason) and Ubuntu LTS on desktop. And more or less ignore everything else outside of as a curiosity.
My main workhorse VM is Ubuntu LTS because when I set it up I just picked it instead of spending another week researching and trying different distros. I could look into swapping it out but nothing has annoyed me about it once I figured out to disable snaps.
It feels like every time I finally have something set up and running I find some article telling me that what I chose is dumb for reason xyz and I really should be using something different, but refactoring at this point is a pita so why mess with something that isn’t broken?
This is a bit like saying “Honda Civics are Tamagotchis for car people” because there’s a community of people who enjoy modifying them. The rest of us just drive, and they run perfectly fine if you’re not doing a lot of invasive customization.
Arch is great for tweaking and customization, but it’s also fine for a simpler use case.
Fedora Immutable Desktop users when Arch and Debian users fight about whose system is more stable. (I use Fedora Kinoite btw)
How is it?
I like it, its been my main system for the last 2 years. For my use case (software development & some gaming) it works very well.
I use EndeavourOS for my primary gaming setup and will sometimes go a month or more before I remember to update again. Even with a relatively modern nVidia card, it seems to keep up just fine.
That being said, every vanilla Arch experience has been a disaster by the end and while it’s not the same situation as the meme, you very much have to have a ton of prior knowledge to get a system that actually feels personal and by the point it’s personal enough, getting support for your setup is nigh impossible because it’s so bespoke.
I use EndeavourOS as my main as well and never have issues as long as I stay away from the AUR.
I love EndeavourOS. It’s easily the most stable Linux experience I’ve had.
Linux Mint user here, I have no idea if Arc is that complicated, I don’t care really. All I need is a rock stable system where I can do things like developing, or just use it as “a computer”.
I reboot every month or three, and feel extra happy after any interaction with m$ windows.
Life’s good 😊
Lmde best stable and normie.
Only normie in Linux world :-)
