• YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club
    126·
    2 days ago

    I’m not a man and I’m not threatening anyone lmao I’m just saying you can’t hide behind “they’re just 13” or whatever age if they’re throwing rocks at your head. I don’t think you’d react well to someone to a gang of kids throwing rocks at your head either.

    • mastertigurius@lemmy.world
      151·
      2 days ago

      Are you justifying IDF soldiers opening fire on children throwing rocks at them? It sure sounds like that’s what you’re doing.

      • YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club
        117·
        2 days ago

        If a “child” (teen) threw a rock at me with sufficient force to cause a traumatic brain injury then I would shoot them with a gun. I don’t see why you guys see that at a gotcha. If someone attacks you you can shoot them back, isn’t that common sense?

        • mastertigurius@lemmy.world
          10·
          2 days ago

          So in your opinion, this is most likely justified. The boy in the picture is fifteen, so he qualifies as a valid target to you. A rock could bounce off the tank and hit an infantryman in the head. The boy was killed, by the way, his name was Faris Odeh. I guess you also think this is justified. How about this? And this?

          You’re referring to anyone above the age of twelve as a “child” in quotation and deserving to be murdered by you if they throw a rock in your direction. You’re perverse, despicable and beyond redemption if you ever make good on your threats. I truly hope no parent will suffer losing their child because of someone like you.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            So in your opinion, this is most likely justified.

            In their opinion, killing Palestinians is always justified.

          • YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club
            19·
            2 days ago

            I’m not threatening anyone. I don’t think it makes sense to use lethal force in your very specific example because that is a tank. If he were throwing it at a person, then hell yeah let loose the hounds of war, that’s deadly force

            • mastertigurius@lemmy.world
              41·
              1 day ago

              Again; you’re convinced that you’re entitled to murder a minor because he/she is throwing rocks at you. Glad we cleared that up. Now, would these universal rules of yours apply regardless of skin colour, gender, faith or cultural background?

              • YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club
                15·
                1 day ago

                I don’t know why it would matter if someone is a minor if they’re tring to murder you? It’s like saying you shouldn’t kick a dog that’s biting your face off. You protect yourself

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      131·
      2 days ago

      Well if I was invading and pillaging their home, I would kinda understand, at least enough to not fucking kill them.

      • YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club
        117·
        2 days ago

        I mean if you’re staying at home in Tel Aviv you aren’t invading anyone…settlers are another category but that’s like wanting me to die as an American because some big bellied Southern rednecks say the South will rise again, ya know?

                • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  31·
                  1 day ago

                  Pissrael really does not care

                  The record shows that Zionism and anti-Jewish feelings (anti-Semitism) had a symbiotic relationship. Victims of Zionist ideology were not limited to the Palestinians (the native inhabitants) but extended to Jews and many others. Sephardic Jews who were forced to flee their homes and rather comfortable lives in Arab countries as Israel pushed to undermine their presence in those countries and as anti-Jewish feelings increased due to the repression of the Palestinians by self-declared Jewish representatives. Even today, actions of the State of Israel do increase and certainly do not decrease threats or danger to Jews around the world. So even strictly judging from its own stated goals of providing normality and safety to Jews, Zionism has been a failure. But perhaps these stated goals were not truly genuine and that Zionism, like so many other -isms, has been mainly about power and control. Declassified documents are shedding light on these things and raise very troubling questions.

                  https://qumsiyeh.org/sharingthelandofcanaan/ Chapter 6

                  some more snippets from that book about the cooperation between the nazis and the zionists

                  The Zionists cooperated with the Nazis in the mid-thirties to facilitate Jewish immigration to Palestine. The details of this agreement were given by Edwin Black’s book (ref 17). After commencement of attacks on Jews under German control, the British, in the hope of easing the pressure for increased immigration into Palestine, proposed that thousands of Jewish children be admitted directly into Britain. Ben-Gurion, the recognized leader of labor Zionism at the time was absolutely against the plan, telling a meeting of Labour Zionist leaders on 7 Dec. 1938:

                  If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the People of Israel (ref 18)

                  Rabbi Shonfeld quotes the Zionist leader Yitzhak Greenbaum, as stating after the war:

                  When they asked me, couldn’t you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said, ‘NO!’ and I say again ‘NO!’ . . . one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance(ref 19)