In an online context, it’s almost impossible to have a real conversation about pitbulls. The people that don’t like them are earnestly scared of them, for themselves, or for others. The people who love pitbulls love them like anyone else would their dogs. For the owners, they are part of the family.
For what it’s worth, I thought the rhetoric was overblown until I adopted a pit bull myself. He’s a great dog and I love him, but the power and aggression he displayed when he is trying to chase a critter is far above any breed I’ve owned. I don’t know if it rises to the level of needing to be regulated, but if I were running a shelter, I would not adopt a pit bull to a first time dog owner.
It stands to reason someone who gets a dog will love the dog, but if people simply stopped buying these breeds they would eventually go extinct an the world would be a safer place
Any terrier does that though. The thing is a jack Russell doing it is a joke that a suburban mom can yank to hell and back. A pitbull is 10x the weight and muscle mass of that tiny dog.
You can’t control a pitbull once they are set off. I grew up with a pitbull and seeing it attack and a bunch of strong grown men unable to control it is scary as shit.
It really is something you have to see to understand. The amount of muscle, the bite force, and instinctual behavior of not letting go and shaking is absolutely terrifying. Luckily my experience was a brutal dog on dog attack and not a human on dog attack.
I know several people with facial disfigurations from pitbulls. I have never seen another breed leave scars like pitbulls do on so many people. I liken it to having a panther instead of a house cat. It is truly remarkable.
I don’t know if it rises to the level of needing to be regulated
It does. That’s the whole point. There’s nothing emotional about this opinion. You don’t have to be scared to think dogs that regularly kill people should be banned. It’s common sense.
I thought the problem is that the amount of dog bites don’t go down when you ban breeds - it just changes to another?
All the studies I’ve seen suggest strong licensing over all dogs, regardless of breed, is the most effective at reducing dog bite injuries and fatalities
That said I’m not great at extrapolating data so if someone can point out anything I’ve missed in that, I’d greatly appreciate it.
This looks like just some data dump prepared by pit bull supporters to have easy link they can distract people with. Seriously, why would someone create a page with dog bite studies specifically?
But I looked at the very first article and…
“f you consider only the much smaller number of cases that resulted in very severe injuries or fatalities, pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified.”
Yeah, no shit. This entire website is trying to purposefully confuse “dog bites” incidents with dogs killing people and then claims “Look, Chow Chows also bite people. It’s the same!”. It’s not. When people talk about banning dangerous breeds they mean breeds that cause severe injuries.
Friend of mine had an adult American Stafford shire and a new red nose Pitbull puppy
Puppy wanted to play, Stafford tried to hide behind me.
Puppy started to bite him from behind to initiate play time, Stafford had enough and wanted to scare him away
Half my upper torso was inside Stafford’s mouth.
He immediately recognised his mistake and I wasn’t hurt in any way, but yeah, they do have quite some ability.
Still, both of them were one of the nicest dogs I’ve ever met.
They’re really family dogs, but with that, they want to defend their family with all their might as well.
And being jealous over a human baby surely is a problem
Still, pretty much all dogs can hurt you and it’s about their owners, who fuck up and those poor dogs need to take the shit for it, when their owner trained them wrong
In an online context, it’s almost impossible to have a real conversation about pitbulls. The people that don’t like them are earnestly scared of them, for themselves, or for others. The people who love pitbulls love them like anyone else would their dogs. For the owners, they are part of the family.
For what it’s worth, I thought the rhetoric was overblown until I adopted a pit bull myself. He’s a great dog and I love him, but the power and aggression he displayed when he is trying to chase a critter is far above any breed I’ve owned. I don’t know if it rises to the level of needing to be regulated, but if I were running a shelter, I would not adopt a pit bull to a first time dog owner.
It stands to reason someone who gets a dog will love the dog, but if people simply stopped buying these breeds they would eventually go extinct an the world would be a safer place
Any terrier does that though. The thing is a jack Russell doing it is a joke that a suburban mom can yank to hell and back. A pitbull is 10x the weight and muscle mass of that tiny dog.
You can’t control a pitbull once they are set off. I grew up with a pitbull and seeing it attack and a bunch of strong grown men unable to control it is scary as shit.
You ever seen a chihuahua? Same thing except they are weak af. Pitbulls aren’t different, just strong
It really is something you have to see to understand. The amount of muscle, the bite force, and instinctual behavior of not letting go and shaking is absolutely terrifying. Luckily my experience was a brutal dog on dog attack and not a human on dog attack.
I know several people with facial disfigurations from pitbulls. I have never seen another breed leave scars like pitbulls do on so many people. I liken it to having a panther instead of a house cat. It is truly remarkable.
It does. That’s the whole point. There’s nothing emotional about this opinion. You don’t have to be scared to think dogs that regularly kill people should be banned. It’s common sense.
I thought the problem is that the amount of dog bites don’t go down when you ban breeds - it just changes to another?
All the studies I’ve seen suggest strong licensing over all dogs, regardless of breed, is the most effective at reducing dog bite injuries and fatalities
That said I’m not great at extrapolating data so if someone can point out anything I’ve missed in that, I’d greatly appreciate it.
https://www.dogbitestudies.org/
This looks like just some data dump prepared by pit bull supporters to have easy link they can distract people with. Seriously, why would someone create a page with dog bite studies specifically?
But I looked at the very first article and…
“f you consider only the much smaller number of cases that resulted in very severe injuries or fatalities, pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified.”
Yeah, no shit. This entire website is trying to purposefully confuse “dog bites” incidents with dogs killing people and then claims “Look, Chow Chows also bite people. It’s the same!”. It’s not. When people talk about banning dangerous breeds they mean breeds that cause severe injuries.
It also doesn’t take into account the size of the mouth either; a giraffe bite will hurt more than a mouse bite.
Friend of mine had an adult American Stafford shire and a new red nose Pitbull puppy
Puppy wanted to play, Stafford tried to hide behind me.
Puppy started to bite him from behind to initiate play time, Stafford had enough and wanted to scare him away
Half my upper torso was inside Stafford’s mouth.
He immediately recognised his mistake and I wasn’t hurt in any way, but yeah, they do have quite some ability.
Still, both of them were one of the nicest dogs I’ve ever met.
They’re really family dogs, but with that, they want to defend their family with all their might as well.
And being jealous over a human baby surely is a problem
Still, pretty much all dogs can hurt you and it’s about their owners, who fuck up and those poor dogs need to take the shit for it, when their owner trained them wrong