They are in complete denial. Imagine approaching death right as it’s impossible to deny your generation personally fucked up the future of civilization itself.
In my experience you now get one of: 1. The weather has always been like this, 2. I did everything I could, I recycled and brought my own cup to the coffee shop, 3. Oh well, I’ll be dead soon so it’s not my problem.
There is GreenPeace that was outlawed this year, but yes there is a green party, it only once reached 1% and they hold 0.1% of seats in regional governments, so they existed indeed. I never thought of this as a way to do something about the issue. On the downside they have a pretty bad stance on everything else, and even the green position is not very consistent
In a de facto two party system it certainly can feel like a spoiler vote, however a single issue party can be highly influential in getting larger parties to adopt better positions on those single issues in order to avoid having votes syphoned away. In a truely multiparty system, a single issue party can directly extract concessions if they end up as part of a coalition government or are in a king-maker situation following an election.
That’s a bit of an exaggeration don’t you think? We are going to have higher highs and lower lowes things are going to be a bit fucked but it nothing close to civilisation ending.
Worst case scenario full ecosystem collapse and that will have the following issues:
A couple billion people die.
Most people who will die will be in the 3rd world or already weak (old, fat, etc).
The west will face mass immigration and if we are to survive we must reserve our resources else everyone dies. Ie full ecosystem collapse will necessitate letting billions starve as they beg for resources we cannot give them.
This is bad but not end of civilisation bad. Ur food might be a shitter and u won’t have the new iPhone but overall u will still be living a better life than most kings throughout history.
Worst case scenario is Venusification, where runaway climate change forces make earth literally uninhabitable for all known lifeforms. If we continue on our current path this is a likely outcome.
Your less-apocalyptic scenario is one where our global economy collapses. If this happens, no area of the earth will be safe. Food production will drop by 80-90%, which means that human population will have to drop by 80-90%.
Your assumption that the West will be a safe haven is incorrect. The West’s economic advantage relies on imports, and in a collapse scenario those imports will stop. We can see a small version of this during the current Hormuz crisis- without middle east oil, weatern farmers have limited access to fertilizer, therefore crop yields are down significantly. Without fertilizer imports, the West cannot farm. Without natural gas imports, the West cannot heat its buildings.
In the collapse scenario, the violence won’t be localized in places like the US border. Humans, even in western nations, will be desperate. Your neighbors will be watching their children starve to death. They will be willing to break down your door and beat you to death if you have food.
My man if the current trend continues for a few more years we will start having water wars. Winter has no snow anymore and droughts are a thing that happens every summer. Also you think people are going to stay put and wait to die? There will be mass migrations on a scale we haven’t seen before.
Stuff is already pretty bad in some places, in the US the Colorado River Basin is in a water crisis already, Lake Mead is getting so low they can’t use it for power generation.
They are in complete denial. Imagine approaching death right as it’s impossible to deny your generation personally fucked up the future of civilization itself.
In my experience you now get one of: 1. The weather has always been like this, 2. I did everything I could, I recycled and brought my own cup to the coffee shop, 3. Oh well, I’ll be dead soon so it’s not my problem.
Everything I could, except vote for representatives who prioritize climate over line-go-up
Did those exist? I don’t quite remember anyone in my country who had climate in their agenda (not even now, afaik)
Don’t know where you’re from but i bet there is a green party in your country that got like 1% of the votes in the last election.
There is GreenPeace that was outlawed this year, but yes there is a green party, it only once reached 1% and they hold 0.1% of seats in regional governments, so they existed indeed. I never thought of this as a way to do something about the issue. On the downside they have a pretty bad stance on everything else, and even the green position is not very consistent
In a de facto two party system it certainly can feel like a spoiler vote, however a single issue party can be highly influential in getting larger parties to adopt better positions on those single issues in order to avoid having votes syphoned away. In a truely multiparty system, a single issue party can directly extract concessions if they end up as part of a coalition government or are in a king-maker situation following an election.
That’s a bit of an exaggeration don’t you think? We are going to have higher highs and lower lowes things are going to be a bit fucked but it nothing close to civilisation ending.
Worst case scenario full ecosystem collapse and that will have the following issues:
This is bad but not end of civilisation bad. Ur food might be a shitter and u won’t have the new iPhone but overall u will still be living a better life than most kings throughout history.
Worst case scenario is Venusification, where runaway climate change forces make earth literally uninhabitable for all known lifeforms. If we continue on our current path this is a likely outcome.
Your less-apocalyptic scenario is one where our global economy collapses. If this happens, no area of the earth will be safe. Food production will drop by 80-90%, which means that human population will have to drop by 80-90%.
Your assumption that the West will be a safe haven is incorrect. The West’s economic advantage relies on imports, and in a collapse scenario those imports will stop. We can see a small version of this during the current Hormuz crisis- without middle east oil, weatern farmers have limited access to fertilizer, therefore crop yields are down significantly. Without fertilizer imports, the West cannot farm. Without natural gas imports, the West cannot heat its buildings.
In the collapse scenario, the violence won’t be localized in places like the US border. Humans, even in western nations, will be desperate. Your neighbors will be watching their children starve to death. They will be willing to break down your door and beat you to death if you have food.
My man if the current trend continues for a few more years we will start having water wars. Winter has no snow anymore and droughts are a thing that happens every summer. Also you think people are going to stay put and wait to die? There will be mass migrations on a scale we haven’t seen before.
Stuff is already pretty bad in some places, in the US the Colorado River Basin is in a water crisis already, Lake Mead is getting so low they can’t use it for power generation.