• okwhateverdude@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Capital/time intensive start up costs make it a barrier to entry. This is why the prices are so high. Supply is inelastic because the producers know this is a bubble. If they do the capital intensive thing and the bubble pops before realizing the additional capacity, they are left holding the bag.

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      19 hours ago

      Yes, that’s literally what I said about bubbles. The assertion in OP is that RAM pricing won’t go back to pre-bubble prices. If that is true, RAM manufacturing will be incredibly profitable post-AI-bubble and competition should emerge eventually.

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        12 hours ago

        It takes double digit billions to start a manufacturing plant and that’s when you already have people who know what to do.

        Most countries can’t really afford this in their budgets and I’m saying countries because it’d be a stupid endeavour for most private enterprises to even attempt. CXMT (DRAM) and YMTC (NAND) absolutely are sponsored by China, which is the only real way to get one of those companies going these days.

        Google, Apple, etc could start their own memory companies if they wanted to. But it’s a hell of an expense to justify to your investors.

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        11 hours ago

        Making RAM isn’t like making a shirt or a suitcase v it’s an extremely specialised and extremely expensive business, and this should be apparent given there are literally only 3 manufacturers in the world.