• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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    A mass casualty event? Brother we’ve been in the mass extinction event for years, and every day we don’t destroy the system that created it is another day the odds of the human species surviving the next couple centuries continues to fall towards zero.

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      Yes, I am certain that your life will begin improving measurably when the food runs out.

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        Yes, I am certain that your life will begin improving measurably when the food runs out.

        Revolutions have had a history of dramatically improving living conditions for everyone as soon as the old system is abolished. The Russian revolution ended famine and doubled life expectancy.

        Alternatively, there can be the simple recognition that breaking the system that exists will result in a mass casualty event

        Revolutions also don’t have to result in violence (think of a mass strike across the entire country that never ends). But when capitalism gets desperate it will start a civil war if that is its only hope to maintain the old system.

        And think about the mass suffering caused by mass poverty, genocide, minority oppression, political polarisation, endless war, boring work and the list goes on. If one revolution is all it takes to install a democratic society and fix so many of our problems, I know I’m on board.

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          Yeah, everyone except the people that end up against the wall.

          More often than not, those people aren’t the ones causing the structural problems in society. The really rich people with the power all escape before that point.

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            Yeah, everyone except the people that end up against the wall.

            Yes generally peoples living conditions do not improve for people who have been shot dead by a firing squad, since they stop living. Although can you please be more specific, I’m not sure how that is related to our discussion.

            More often than not, those people aren’t the ones causing the structural problems in society. The really rich people with the power all escape before that point.

            Okay, I’m not sure if that is true or not but I don’t think that is relevant anyway.

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            Source: my ass

            Now you’re just lazily regurgitating Orwell-style fed bullshit about how somehow revolution won’t change anything.

            “Everyone except the people that end up against the wall” yeah that’s the point dumbass, the oligarchs cannot be allowed to fuck up the new world too

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              The oligarchs will escape. The people up against the wall will be those that are not wealthy enough to escape, but not poor enough to be desperate.

              There’s a reason that Orwell was banned in the US for being pro-communist and banned in the USSR for being pro-capitalist. That reason is because Orwell was anti-authoritarian.

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                Orwell’s works are taught in school in the west because they are anticommunist fairy tales, and he was a sex abuser and professional snitch for British intelligence.

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        Just one more election bro, I know we have The Camps and everyone on earth has organs laden with microplastic and we’ve killed fully one third of the forests and the oceans are turning to acid, but now is not the time for radical change bro

        I’m sure your life will (moderately, bipartisanly) improve when the oceanic algae is all dead and you can no longer breathe. At least then you won’t have the air to speak this nonsense, and I’ll only have to listen to our gasping coughs as we wait for the harm reduction to kick in.