cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48806122

A license verification certificate expires and when it expires, Microsoft Office for Mac assumes it’s unlicensed even if it has been fully paid for.

So, any idiot who paid for Office 2019 for Mac “perpetual” will lose access to it next month.

The same will happen with Office 2021 and Office 2024 in the future.

Pirates are unaffected, only who paid for the product gets punished

Good job 👍🏻

  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Idiots?

    I’m not one of them, but what makes them idiots? Seems kind of uncalled for.

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        9 hours ago

        Agreed. I don’t know if this is the term for it, but I’ve been thinking of all this as “signaling disrespect,” a deliberate attempt to make people think of their peers as lesser, as other.

        I feel like either people have been conditioned to do this online all the time for some reason, or maybe there’s some directed attack against civility. I don’t know. But I refuse to let myself be affected by it. I won’t hate people.

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      That’s what I’m thinking

      I bought the win version, because I have a five year old win 10 computer I’m using until win 10 is no longer supported, and I can’t get office for free anymore.

      When win 10 is no longer supported, that’s a Linux computer.

      Would I be an idiot, if they cancelled support for mine? I guess so. I’m waiting for some edgelord to tell me I am, probably accompanied by y0u sH00d jUsT g0 LinUx n0w

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        12 hours ago

        Yeah, no rush.

        Come on over to the Linux side when it suits you. You’re welcome to the family when you’re ready and that computer is ready. 🤟

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          Certainly will be, this is definitely the last windows I’m running. Cheers.

          It was my sons school computer and it’s running education which for win 10 I have been happy with. One son has ditched win 11 and is running Bazzite now. The other is wound back to win 10 I think, but he’ll move

          I’m in the process of deciding which distro to move on; I manage my sons NDIS so that’s front and centre; security of federal government records and claims.

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            9 hours ago

            Unless you have a specific use case in mind, or have a particular distribution that interests you, I can wholeheartedly recommend Fedora (GNOME or KDE version, either is good). I’ve not had any issues with it for a few years (I think I had some trouble with it in 2022, but nothing since then).

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              Thank you, not exactly no, just stable and secure.

              I don’t game on it, just book keeping and I do a bit of correspondence. But yeah I need security because the federal government require me to keep records and I make claims through their portal. That’s particularly important now that what I’ve been doing for the last five years will soon become federal law.

              The other thing is I’m not fond of allowing the American tech giants access to those parts of my records. Fortunately excel isn’t required for it. At this time the only American tech involved with it is MS.

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        A: gets scammed by company

        B: You’re so stupid, you should have known that company was going to scam you.

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          As if Microsoft was founded just yesterday and wasn’t scamming everyone at everything for like decades, right?

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            They don’t have a history of undoing perpetual licenses though. I mean, I know people who still use a licensed copy of office 2000

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              Now they have. The point is, if you trust that company for whatever reason, it’s your problem. What makes you believe they’re to be trusted? That they changed? There’s nothing that indicates that, yet people keep not just using their unprofessional incompetent code glued stack, they pay money for it.

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                Oftentimes it’s not a choice. Microsoft office is a de facto standard in many professional contexts.
                I personally avoid using Microsoft products whenever I can but that doesn’t mean everybody has that luxury.

                And I cannot blame anyone buying a perpetual licence when the alternative is a subscription.

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            I’m not defending this action from Microsoft, but for most people, they buy a Microsoft product and then happily use it for years, none the wiser to any of Microsoft’s other nonsense happening in the background.

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              Coming from a background where software is usually pirated and not paid for (which I don’t support now), it’s a special kind of weird to pay for that shite. I mean, who could have guessed? Me personally, I have no empathy for those. Go buy the next license from Microsoft, I guess. Till they screw you again.

              If you pay for something, pay for quality. I understand people who buy Apple stuff, it’s not even overpriced when you consider all the factors. Windows people are fooling themselves, and it’s really fun to watch. ‘Idiots’ is the right word in my book. So I vibe with the title, it’s more correct than the Verge’s one.

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          Not saying that I agree with the title, just explaining what I think was the reason.

          Although one could say that trusting microslop to keep their word after what we’ve seen them do in the last years is… foolish to say the least.

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      I’m not one of them, but what makes them idiots? Seems kind of uncalled for.

      It’s obviously a play on the common phrase that the honest guy ends up being the idiot. Not because the honest guy is stupid but because the honesty ends up backfiring. It’s used all the time in video game DRM contexts.

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        10 hours ago

        It was obviously not obvious to me, but okay. I’ll take your word for it. 🙃

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      Anyone who pays to install software from a spyware company is incredibly naive to say the least

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        13 hours ago

        Must be like the vast majority of everyone alive that uses some kind of tech these days, then. 🤷‍♂️ I just felt like the title is over the top a little bit. If it had been in a comment it would’ve made me react less for some reason. 😄

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          I get it. You’re absolutely right it doesn’t make them idiots. Even I’m being hyperbolic to an extent. The real issue is much bigger and doesn’t stop at Microsoft. I get why people feel so powerless and end up going along with the status quo. Really, the fact that we’ve allowed it is more of a reflection on our collective Idiocracy.

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            12 hours ago

            It’s only morning here but I feel like this comment is the best interaction online I’m gonna have today.

            Great response. And not because you agree with me but because it was even way more insightful than what I said.

            Have a good one, friend. 🫶