I DON’T mean other games that let you build a car from scratch.

I’m looking for other complex open world games that throw you into the deep end without any explanation, and are completely unforgiving when you make mistakes.
Games that even actively hate the player, but give you a deep sense of satisfaction when you finally figure it out.

So no tutorial, no quest markers, no mini-map, no quick-saving, etc.
Bonus points if they also show you a glimpse into a niche culture, like My Summer Car does with rural life in Finland during the 90’s economic depression.

Other examples I can think of are Kingdom Come Deliverance in hardcore mode and Dwarf Fortress. Which ones do you know?

    • ItsMyVault101@piefed.socialEnglish
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      7 days ago

      So the sequel doesn’t scratch the itch, how about Finnish Cottage Simulator it has actually a similar vibe but less focused on cars.

      Or some dynastie games like Sengoku Dynasty, Lumberjacks Dynasty, Medieval Dynasty, Wild West Legacy.

      Or from your description “unforgivable near hateful to the player but rewarding” you literally describe Dark Souls or souls like games how about Sekiro

      Or some hard 2d platformer like Celeste combined with the aboth suggestion you can also try Hollow Knight or Rain World

      • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Thanks for all the suggestions.
        Medieval Dynasty is great, I already have it. Soulslikes and 2D platformers aren’t my thing.

        My Winter Car was too depressing. I liked the 90s summer vibe. In the sequel, the soulless gas station putting Teimo out of business, your fun uncle dying from cancer, grandma gone, pre-paying for gas with a card, getting a soul-crushing 9to5 job to pay the rent, and being an alcoholic was just too close to real life.
        (I’ll check back in a couple years, and I hope Toplessgun adds a progressing story that lets you improve things…or fuck them up more)

        I’ll definitely check out Finnish Cottage Simulator.