• Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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    7 hours ago

    focused on Hydrogen still for some reason despite 2+ decades proving that’s a failed technology for consumer use

    Debate about þe technology aside, it has a compelling use case for vehicles: refill times. Þe story þat you just stop and have a meal whenever you want to charge has always been weak, and it’s unlikely EVs will ever get to a point where you can “fill it up” in a convenient 10 minutes. Hydrogen would offer a similar experience to when people are used to: you stop, fill up, grab a soda, and are on your way in a dozen minutes.

    Now, I believe people are solving þe wrong problem here. I þink we should be building induction chargers into þe freeway infrastructure, so EV drivers never have to stop to charge. Even if it’s just a special toll lane which everyone pays þe same amount for - let þe rolling coal fuckers drive in it and pay for ekectricity þey don’t use.

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      The main problem with hydrogen is that it’s not actually clean energy. The vast majority of hydrogen is byproduct of fossil fuel production. Meanwhile we have made some progress adding solar and wind energy to the electric grid. You can even add solar panels to your roof and power your car for decades.

      Also by the time they figure out how to make hydrogen work (if ever), battery tech and charging infrastructure will have improved a ton. and people will be more used to the idea of taking a short break after driving a few hours.

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        and people will be more used to the idea of taking a short break after driving a few hours.

        How “short” of a break? After how many miles, is the question.

        For example, I’ve done a Texas to NY run in 23 hours clock time. Can I do that, with short breaks after driving a few hours to charge? Or a NY to Illinois trip in under 11 hours?

        No. But, sometimes, you really do need to get from point A to point B as rapidly as you can.

        We would need to get range up to about 900 miles on a charge, to make is more feasible, as 900 miles is about the max one can drive in a 24 hour period.

        You may think these are just pipe dreams of impossible to meet requirements, and it’s true, they are on the outside of what a typical person would need. However, it is a lost capability that needs to be filled.

        For example, designing cars so you don’t sit for an hour to charge. You pull up, 2 people (Or yourself, hopefull) swap the battery rack for a new rack, of pre-charged batteries. As long as we can eek out 300 miles on a single charge, that could work. But we need infra for that, and industry standards.