• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    why is building a large, complex and hard to produce solar panel

    Solar engines have historically been simple and easy to produce relative to coal and gas engines. We’ve had industrial solar heating technology since the 19th century, even. Sort of the joke of fossil fuel technology, in that it’s been a consequence of heavy R&D investment and industrial build out as much by choice as by any engineering advantage.

    It’s improving the tech, which could eventually far and away outpaced every other energy producer.

    It’s been a pop science empty promise for decades. We were talking about fusion technology in the 1960s like it was just around the corner. Yes, there’s an enormous amount of output in fusion technology. But it requires even more energy input. What’s more - as the article downplays but is forced to concede - it is highly unstable and difficult to sustain, even at a super-sized laboratory setting.

    This is a far cry from fission which can be achieved practically by accident (see the Chicago Pile-1) and is comparatively straightforward to control via mechanical methods.

    Even in the event you manage to produce something approaching stable fusion at the size-scale necessary for industrial deployment, there’s still no reason to believe the technology would be cheaper per watt than the indirect capture of an already running supermassive fusion system (ie, the Sun). In that case, it wouldn’t outpace every other energy producer for the same reason conventional nuclear power hasn’t.

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      3 hours ago

      There’s a good reason why it’s been talked about since the 60s but never happened:

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          If they devoted billions of dollars per year to it and nothing else, maybe.

          Keep in mind that OpenAI still hasn’t made any profit, their entire valuation is based on hype that will be exploited to steal money via the ipo, and then the Altar will beg Trump for a bailout to prevent a bankruptcy.

          Altman and Musk both tried to get their companies into Nasdaq and the S&P 500

          They really pushed, because retirement funds are required to buy shares of the the entire index, and if any of the companies in that fund have sudden bankruptcy issues, the government is more likely to step in to save the company. Theoretically, this saves the retirement funds. It never has, but that’s how saving the company is sold.

          Anyway the Indexes refused to change their rules so the bailout will have to come from bribing Trump.

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          1 hour ago

          If they spent real money (not paper passing around deals between companies) over a decade and had tens of thousands of scientists and engineers and institutional knowledge and partnerships with academia in order to do it properly, yes they could.

          But we both know they don’t have any of those things, so no practically they couldn’t.