• rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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    1 day ago

    If there’s heavy traffic in your city and private cars are still preferable to public transport, your infrastructure is shit and you should go pester your politicians about it

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      I’m in an odd situation where there’s heavy traffic but we have very good bike lanes and bike trails. Yet I am afraid to use the bike lanes most of the time because the drivers are so insane. And half the people who do ride bikes end up doing it wrong because they feel unsafe: they ride in the bike lane against traffic or just ride on the sidewalks where they become the threat: to pedestrians.

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        2 hours ago

        Public transport would still alleviate the issue by moving a portion of the drivers off the roads. Which, in turn, will make bike lanes safer.

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      6 hours ago

      How could having my own personal space that operates on my schedule ever not be preferable to being crammed into a smelly tube with a bunch of other people?

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      1 day ago

      What do I do if the public transit is pretty good and the city is walkable, but all the jobs are in office parks 40 minutes out of town?

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        Pester your politicians that they forgot a part of the walkable city. Either a walkable workplace or work from home.

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          Hello, yes. I work in construction. I carry 50+lbs (23+kg) of tools and/or material to work (which constantly changes locations as buildings and projects finished being built).

          How do I fit into the walkable city plan?

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            I never claimed everyone could work from home. But I think you’ll agree, that your commute would probably become quicker and less stressful, if the majority of office workers could stay at home.
            Less traffic if you have to drive, less crowded public transport. As a side effect life in the city might also become less stressful, as the noise from traffic reduces.

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          1 day ago

          Define walkable.

          I can walk to literally everything I need in my daily life except my job, and the share of residents lucky enough to work in the city can walk or bike to those too. My city scores incredibly high in both walk and bike scores; this drives real estate prices up, which drives employers to the suburbs, and—wouldn’t you know it!—the cheapest places to build office parks are situated away from the commuter transit.

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            Walkable: jobs, homes, and basic essentials shopping coexist near enough to each other.

            It’s not walkable if you only have 2 out of 3.

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              23 hours ago

              The definition is not that difficult

              Idk if you’re trolling or just obstinate, but if you don’t explain the exact definition you are using, it is impossible to determine what meets it and what does not.

              For example:

              Walkability is a measure of how accessible services and amenities are by foot or transit. A city is walkable if a broad range of these are thusly available.

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                2 hours ago

                They’re not being obstinate. You are working very hard not to understand that your job has to be walkable too.

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                22 hours ago

                Sure, your definition works. Your place of work is obviously included into the list of location that needs to be accessible, since it’s somewhere you commute to almost every day.

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                    20 hours ago

                    That depends. If the one that is excluded is the majority of your destinations, I’d say it is in fact required to be walkable

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              18 hours ago

              Let me just walk my 315lb welder to work each morning. Can I borrow your kids radio flyer after you walked them to school?