• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Almost everyone in this thread seems to be assuming the US would pay for half the shares/equity of these companies.

    That is not what is being proposed.

    What is being proposed is that the US Govt simply seize half the shares/equity/board voting powers in these companies, without paying a cent for them.

    It is a half-nationalization.

    Not a half-bailout.

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      43 minutes ago

      Nationalization doesn’t change the fact that for example OpenAI plans to burn $100B in 2026 without any profit so taxpayers will inherit $50B debt just from 2026. Moreover it doesn’t stop those companies for raising more debt from for example corporate bonds emission just by saying 50% of their capital is government owned. That would allow them to literally raise trillions.
      https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/12/30/openais-cash-burn-will-be-one-of-the-big-bubble-questions-of-2026
      https://archive.ph/8Ej9z

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        If OpenAI fails, and the government owns half of it…

        The assets and power the government acquired for no monetary cost simply becomes zero.

        The other part of simply seizing half the shares is that the government (presumably a number of ministers/officials in charge of the new sovereign wealth fund) now has half the voting power of the entire board.

        That is a pretty direct way to wield influence as to the decisions the company can make, how the CEO can behave.

        You want maybe the accounting to actually deprecate the GPUs they have or lease over a realistic timeframe, instead of a totally bullshit one?

        Half of your shareholders now demand this.

        C Suite refuse to comply?

        Begin the process of firing them.

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      Good clarification. I’m convinced we will end up bailing them out anyway. We should nationalize and operate as a public good if generative AI is that important to society.