I have no idea who took a piss in your breakfast cereal, but I asure you it wasn’t me. You’re not responding to my posts, you’re making very large assumptions about someone you don’t know based on a predisposition about my instance, and then you’re adding some seasoning with parts of what I wrote.

In other words, you’re so deep into your echo chamber I can’t get you out.

For what its worth, I agree with that some liberals are sometimes ok with genocide for certain reasons. I don’t like that either, and I’ve condemned it.

Similarly, there have been people unapologetically defending Chinese genocide in Xinjiang province too. Also not great, I condemn that too.

Not sure why you are talking about nationalism, we are not from the same nation, we’re just both human. Flaws and mistakes included. Hotheaded opinions and tempers, but at the end of the day, all that matters is which side of the class war you’re at for me. And there in we are brothers and sisters, because we don’t have the mountains of money other people worked hard for, nor do we fuck kids, or do we use blackmail or covert operations to backhandedly try to get a nuclear power to attack our enemies.

Right now, we are both not growing at all, and we’re about as Reddit as we can get, so you’re not really succeeding in your mission.

Just for posterity, this is what I responded too.

I’m saying we are on the same side.

I know you’re saying that, and I’m saying it shows how foundational nationalism is to your mindset that you think you can just declare it to be true even though I do not consider you on my side

Nazis and fascists are unilaterally not tolerated as far as I have seen.

I’ve seen Lemmy liberals tolerate them plenty so long as they’re aligned with the democrats (who themselves are largely fascist) or against the Wests enemies.

We’ve got so much more in common than what divides us

Again, shows just how foundational nationalism is to you that you think you can just assert we have “so much more in common” just because we share a national affinity even though we have different values and ideologies.

but if this how some people on Lemmy want to spend their time, then I’m not going to stop them.

How magnanimous of you… I know liberals are used to being able to unilaterally shut down leftists in most spaces, but you don’t actually have the power to do that here.

Every person in this thread who either responded or downvoted has assumed my points of view just because of my instance

Or we can just read your posts.

I don’t think that’s a smart way to try and grow an actually revolutionary new internet platform.

Good. We don’t want to grow another Reddit

There was a terrorist situation, not an ‘Uyghur’ situation.
Western funded islamic terrorist funded by the west doing multiple terrorist attacks.
And that has been dealth with.
And yes China has jails too, OMG!
They must obviously be al horrible Guantanamos, you know, how the west deals with them.
Definitely believe that propaganda, especially from the deranged religious fanatic Zenz who invents all these things, and later gets parroted without scrutiny by the western mouthpieces.

Western propaganda has been claiming the “situation” constitutes a genocide, with no real evidence to back it up.

One of the US’s strategies to destabilize other countries is to back separatists and terrorists. It combines that with information warfare and usually economic warfare in hopes that the instability will open the door for a coup, where a compradore would be put in charge and then facilitate the extraction of resources from the country. This pattern has been replicated dozens of times in the last few decades.

China has been hit by multiple terrorist attacks as a result of this tactic, so it instituted deradicalization practices and jobs training for at-risk populations.

The Western propaganda industry used images from South America and claimed they were forced labor in China (with Spanish signs visible in the background). They used early image generation to fill out a registry of “missing” people, except a lot of the images still had artifacts from generation (if you remember thispersondoesnotexist, they were almost identical to that) until they got deleted. They relied almost exclusively, for a time, on citations from Adrien Zens, a man who cannot speak or read Mandarin and claims he is chosen by God to bring about the downfall of China.

China invited the UN to investigate. Dozens of countries investigated and found no evidence of genocide.

We’ve seen the kind of evidence that modern genocide produces due to Israel’s actual genocide of Palestinians.

So some westerners have walked back their invention from “genocide” to “situation”, while others continue to parrot the original disproven claims.

So it’s not about trying to compare moral judgements, it’s a skepticism of any claims coming from a proven, proudly genocidal empire about its targets.

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