I’d have to disagree with this. My wife has definitely banged me when I was asleep and or drunk. She didn’t ask, but it was yes from me if she did.
I don’t think you should use a generic chart as a guide, it isn’t always that simple, because people aren’t that simple. It’s also not very helpful, people who have morals already know this. The other people know this, they just don’t give a shit, it isn’t they don’t understand. There’s a big difference.
This chart is good for hookups. In long term relationships you can negotiate things like asleep and inebriated while sober or through long term safe sane and consensual escalation. Then you get to enjoy things that are hard to enjoy ethically with a stranger. Hell in most kinky contexts most of these are yes and are replaced with a safeword for “no” but you need more trust for that than you can muster with most strangers.
I’d have to disagree with this. My wife has definitely banged me when I was asleep and or drunk. She didn’t ask, but it was yes from me if she did.
I don’t think you should use a generic chart as a guide, it isn’t always that simple, because people aren’t that simple. It’s also not very helpful, people who have morals already know this. The other people know this, they just don’t give a shit, it isn’t they don’t understand. There’s a big difference.
This chart is good for hookups. In long term relationships you can negotiate things like asleep and inebriated while sober or through long term safe sane and consensual escalation. Then you get to enjoy things that are hard to enjoy ethically with a stranger. Hell in most kinky contexts most of these are yes and are replaced with a safeword for “no” but you need more trust for that than you can muster with most strangers.