• Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
    15·
    9 hours ago

    consent is meaningless because people are just predictive models

    This is true if one maintains the assumption that predictive models (such as people) can’t experience qualia such as pain. My intend was to disabuse you and daannii of this silly notion. Obviously mathematical models can experience pain, because you’re a mathematical model and you can experience pain.

    • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
      3·
      8 hours ago

      Predictive models and other computing processes do not have feelings or sensations because they don’t have nerves or any other senses. They are a complex process that has output based on input, but like a magic 8 ball with no agency or thought process.

      Reducing biology to just cause and effect is like saying rivers and oceans are the same thing because they both involve moving water, ignoring literally everything else that makes them different.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
        16·
        8 hours ago

        Predictive models are perfectly capable of having nerves and senses. You, for instance. You’re a predictive model and you have nerves and senses.

        Also, what’s this “nerves or any other senses”? What kind of sense doesn’t come through a nerve? I’m starting to think you don’t know as much as I do about neuroscience.