• grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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      Conservative ideology is about defining underclasses that have fewer or no rights. Sadly, that type of hierarchical thinking is present everywhere and probably in everyone to some degree or another.

      So we’re not immune.

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      Conservatives do exist here, there are plenty of people that actually believe Harris would have been a good president or that the US is capable of good actions.

      I’ve even see people unironically support USAID and the NED. That kind of far-right bullshit is why some of us left reddit.

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        Yeah you’re proving the point I made by expressing your standard for “conservative”. Lemmy has the slightly left of center, left, leftist, extremist left and anarchists/communists. Which is fine, its my preference too. But it’s not a representation of the actual political spectrum. If you think it is you’re in an echo chamber.

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          ‘Conservative’ is conserving the old world. Conservatives in the 1800s wanted a return to feudalism as a reactionary backlash to liberalism.

          Liberalism and liberal ideology has been the only ‘valid’ ideology for states for 2 centuries.

          It is conservative to defend liberalism. It’s conservative to defend neoliberalism.

          In order to be ‘progressive’ you have to at least be a ‘radical’ socialist that wants the abolition of capitalism.

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              I’m correcting your point. Yes, a lot of the US is conservative. Most of the world isn’t. Only a US-Centric viewpoint would define liberalism as anything other than a conservative old-fashioned ideology only held by people that worship nazis.

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                You’re a shining star absolutely perfecting the point I made. Thank you for enforcing the facts I stated. The “most of the world” you’re talking about extends mostly to a dozen European countries with few exceptions. Not to an actual majority in regards to population. You’re absolutely killing the game when it comes to my post.

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          How is the US propaganda source that statistically only handles a partial clean up of US military and intelligence community actions ‘far right bullshit?’

          If I come into your home, kill your pets, piss in your fridge, and mutilate your children, but then I pay someone to come in and give you some new food so I can print in the news paper that I am kindly and benevolently feeding a victim of a tragedy… am I the good guy?

          No. I am attempting to generate positive propaganda to help people ignore the fact I caused the entire fucking situation to begin with.

          There are no USAID projects that cannot directly be linked to a US military or intelligence operation. None. Not a single one.

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            What about the assistance with AIDS, malaria, smallpox, clean water in Nepal, Ebola in Sierra Leon or the disaster relief after the typhoon in the Philippines(a quick short list)? Or was that all CIA black ops psyops bullshit?

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            It’s called soft power.

            You can disagree with how it was done, but the results are undeniable (and have only been made more clear since it was shut down)