• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 hours ago

    That is nonsense.

    The left was coined by its opposition to the monarchy while the right supported it.

    So left has been currently and historically speaking in opposition of hierarchies and in favor of equality.

    The right consequently has been in favor of hierarchies.

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      1 hour ago

      Okay, but just grounding it in historical context doesn’t make it the definition. If Mamdani established Mamdanistan and abused courts to execute people polluting ground water with data centers, that would be hierarchical, but very clearly not “right wing” in the common understanding.

      Opposing hierarchies is generally fitting, but the minutia of politics make such simple definitions harder to agree on by everyone, which touches on their point.

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        34 minutes ago

        Weird example but ok.

        And no, it is not only historical. I stated that in my original comment and I invite you to look at left wing politics but some “left wing” politician’s position on some random issue, but a widely supported position by the left wing community. You will see that they are all in opposition of hierarchy.

        But let’s take your weirdly racist example, where is the hierarchy?

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          5 minutes ago

          Sorry my bad, I thought jokes about Mamdanistan were more common internet parlance, the point is a radical leftwing state in the minds of fox news viewers. I was doing the limiting case to prove the point, but the base point is prosecution of criminal environmental acts through courts requires hierarchy.

          I guess I have to ask what you mean by hierarchy if you don’t believe that courts executing people counts.