I’m just worried for the troops. The fuckers sending them are ultimately responsible, but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.
Not every body joined to carry out a fascist regimes whims, some joined before and are contracted for years. Some people have no option but the military if they want to have health care for their kids. It’s an unfortunate truth that many good people are in the military because it’s the only way to provide for their family, and a blanket fuck all military members statement shows just how ignorant and stupid you are.
Every single one of them participate in or abet the acts of aggression, crimes, and atrocities carried out across the many conflicts the U.S. is participating and has participated in. As has been pointed out, they help facilitate the killing of civilians, many of which are impoverished.
The fact they’re joining for the benefits does not excuse them in any way.
The very last part of your last sentence is a confession.
Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it’s not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn’t have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.
So have I dumb ass, on both sides of US invasions. My mother is from Venezuela, and my father is ashamed of what he had to do to provide his children with a better life. That’s not what my original comment was about, I was stating that in the United States if you are poor and want health care and the opportunity to provide for you family your option is the military. Must be nice to come from a country where you have a choice, your privilege is showing.
I’m trans, disabled, unemployed and from/in Latin America, you asshole. Having principles isn’t a privilege, it’s the bare minimum. If you believe we’re less human than you and we can get killed so you get healthcare you suck. I’d sooner do precarious work that only puts me at risk than do that. There’s no universe in which what you’re saying makes sense. Grow up and stop making imperialist apologia.
sorry you feel that way.
the us has been a terror state since at least ww2 and has terrorized people all over the world for decades. every place they entered was left in shambles and millions of people are worse off and suffering due to the usa’s actions. trump didn´t change the trajectory of american foreign politics and warmongering. america didn´t turn fascist over night. it’s only now that a president makes life worse domestically in a very blatant fashion.
after your statement you are not in the position to call someone “ignorant”
Ok and where do you live buddy? It is ignorant to act like everybody in the military is there by choice. When the choice is to let your family starve and die of preventable disease, or join the war machine do you see that as a choice? Is letting your family die an option you keep on the table? 2 of my siblings would not be here today if not for my father’s health coverage in the military. Not everybody grew up in well to do families that had options, some took the only opportunities they had and to day that’s a choice is pure ignorance. This helps your children have a choice, instead of a grave stone. And the fascist movement in USA really has taken off in the last decade, go watch a George bush talk when he was president. He sounds like a lefty by todays standards with how far the Overton window has shifted. And no I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
What do you actually know about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? …
Only someone as privileged as a USian could say something so completely wrong.
If your trying to act like what is happening in the USA today is the same as 20 years ago I can only imagine the privelidge you must have to be so naive.
I don’t care about internal US bullishit (we were talking about US wars) but even in that area you’re wilfully ignorant McCarthyism, The deporter in chief, Guantanamo bay, Abu gharib (CIA black sites et al). You are clearly a very privileged person with a very loose grasp on history and reality.
While we’re on the tipic. Please explain to me how the extermination campaign in Korea (dropping more bombs on half an already small peninsula than were dropped in the Pacific theatre of WW2 as a whole, 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 of the population killed, all major farms and structures turned to rubble leaving the survivors living in caves) is not equivalent or honestly worse than the more recent atrocities. Or how about Vietnam still dealing with the after affects of the rainbow agents (agent orange etc.). Or the US collection of pet failed states like Libya. How about putting pinochet or the shah (aka the butcher) in power alongside the rest of their pet fascists of the day.
You are an arrogant uninformed privileged ass who needs to read some books and get in touch with reality.
I’m just worried for the troops. The fuckers sending them are ultimately responsible, but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.
Wat? Pretty sure they knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the fucking army.
they joined voluntarily. f them.
Not every body joined to carry out a fascist regimes whims, some joined before and are contracted for years. Some people have no option but the military if they want to have health care for their kids. It’s an unfortunate truth that many good people are in the military because it’s the only way to provide for their family, and a blanket fuck all military members statement shows just how ignorant and stupid you are.
Every single one of them participate in or abet the acts of aggression, crimes, and atrocities carried out across the many conflicts the U.S. is participating and has participated in. As has been pointed out, they help facilitate the killing of civilians, many of which are impoverished.
The fact they’re joining for the benefits does not excuse them in any way.
The very last part of your last sentence is a confession.
And do you not care about the families and children in the countries they plunder and rape?
Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it’s not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn’t have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.
The “echo chamber” here includes people who lost family and friends to US invasions, f off
So have I dumb ass, on both sides of US invasions. My mother is from Venezuela, and my father is ashamed of what he had to do to provide his children with a better life. That’s not what my original comment was about, I was stating that in the United States if you are poor and want health care and the opportunity to provide for you family your option is the military. Must be nice to come from a country where you have a choice, your privilege is showing.
I’m trans, disabled, unemployed and from/in Latin America, you asshole. Having principles isn’t a privilege, it’s the bare minimum. If you believe we’re less human than you and we can get killed so you get healthcare you suck. I’d sooner do precarious work that only puts me at risk than do that. There’s no universe in which what you’re saying makes sense. Grow up and stop making imperialist apologia.
sorry you feel that way. the us has been a terror state since at least ww2 and has terrorized people all over the world for decades. every place they entered was left in shambles and millions of people are worse off and suffering due to the usa’s actions. trump didn´t change the trajectory of american foreign politics and warmongering. america didn´t turn fascist over night. it’s only now that a president makes life worse domestically in a very blatant fashion.
after your statement you are not in the position to call someone “ignorant”
Ok and where do you live buddy? It is ignorant to act like everybody in the military is there by choice. When the choice is to let your family starve and die of preventable disease, or join the war machine do you see that as a choice? Is letting your family die an option you keep on the table? 2 of my siblings would not be here today if not for my father’s health coverage in the military. Not everybody grew up in well to do families that had options, some took the only opportunities they had and to day that’s a choice is pure ignorance. This helps your children have a choice, instead of a grave stone. And the fascist movement in USA really has taken off in the last decade, go watch a George bush talk when he was president. He sounds like a lefty by todays standards with how far the Overton window has shifted. And no I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
Almost as if there are other jobs out there besides military. Or do those not count?
Also, the fact you think Bush sounds like a lefty further highlights your own sheer ignorance.
What do you actually know about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? …
Only someone as privileged as a USian could say something so completely wrong.
can´t add more to this. thx for saving me the headache of writing paragraphs.
If your trying to act like what is happening in the USA today is the same as 20 years ago I can only imagine the privelidge you must have to be so naive.
I don’t care about internal US bullishit (we were talking about US wars) but even in that area you’re wilfully ignorant McCarthyism, The deporter in chief, Guantanamo bay, Abu gharib (CIA black sites et al). You are clearly a very privileged person with a very loose grasp on history and reality.
While we’re on the tipic. Please explain to me how the extermination campaign in Korea (dropping more bombs on half an already small peninsula than were dropped in the Pacific theatre of WW2 as a whole, 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 of the population killed, all major farms and structures turned to rubble leaving the survivors living in caves) is not equivalent or honestly worse than the more recent atrocities. Or how about Vietnam still dealing with the after affects of the rainbow agents (agent orange etc.). Or the US collection of pet failed states like Libya. How about putting pinochet or the shah (aka the butcher) in power alongside the rest of their pet fascists of the day.
You are an arrogant uninformed privileged ass who needs to read some books and get in touch with reality.
How about trying to actually answer the question posed instead of further projection?