Can someone please help me understand why you would want to have your passwords in the cloud? I’ve been using Keepass for about the past 15 years. I always just sync the db between computers/mobiles. Its never been an issue. Is having it in the cloud really that big of an advantage?
convenience. its integrated into the browser and easy to get going. I personally use it for “unimportant” logins. Mainly things that are not government or financial or such. My improtant ones I keep on an external drive that I only pull out for when im doing that type of stuff.
Natural disaster -> no longer can access everything you have online, including bank and insurance accounts, at precisely the time you most don’t want to deal with that.
Pretty much this. Cloud storage isn’t perfect, but it sure does make proper 3-2-1 backup hygiene easier. 3 backups, on 2 different mediums, 1 of them off site. Cloud storage accomplishes both the 2 and 1, because it is both a different medium and off site.
The fact that you can automatically sync remotely is a big bonus too, because off-site backups historically have a problem where they fall out of date without active attention. For instance, if you have a tape backup system stored in a warehouse across town, those tapes are only as up-to-date as the last time you took the time to drive across town and update them. But with cloud storage, you can automatically sync your folders to keep things up to date in near real time. Plus, your traditional off-site backup is only as secured from things like natural disasters if you’re willing to travel fairly long distances to make them. Those tapes in a warehouse across town won’t survive if the entire town is hit by a natural disaster like a wildfire or flood.
For instance, maybe I make an update on my laptop, and then want to access it on my phone. Even with SyncThing, my laptop and phone won’t sync with each other unless they’re able to find each other on the same network. If I’m not on a trusted network at the time, (e.g. I’m at work on my employer’s WiFi, or traveling and using hotel WiFi) that makes syncing difficult. But with cloud storage, they can both essentially use that as a relay. My laptop updates the cloud, and then my phone pulls that update. Now both devices are up-to-date without actually needing to discover each other on a trusted network.
I’m currently (for the past 5 or six years) using a nextcloud server (remote) where I store the master. My desktop is typically where I make changes but sometimes on my mobile devices. No mater where I edit the database it gets synced. Knock on wood, but I’ve never had as issue.
You can have both and keep a local copy via export once in a while.
If the cloud goes down the also most likely your bank website.
If you’re talking about other types of secrets then the first sentence will apply
Can someone please help me understand why you would want to have your passwords in the cloud? I’ve been using Keepass for about the past 15 years. I always just sync the db between computers/mobiles. Its never been an issue. Is having it in the cloud really that big of an advantage?
Not interested in selfhosting and risk a data breach.
It’s imple: Who is better equipped to combat a hack? You or Bitwarden?
convenience. its integrated into the browser and easy to get going. I personally use it for “unimportant” logins. Mainly things that are not government or financial or such. My improtant ones I keep on an external drive that I only pull out for when im doing that type of stuff.
Natural disaster -> no longer can access everything you have online, including bank and insurance accounts, at precisely the time you most don’t want to deal with that.
Pretty much this. Cloud storage isn’t perfect, but it sure does make proper 3-2-1 backup hygiene easier. 3 backups, on 2 different mediums, 1 of them off site. Cloud storage accomplishes both the 2 and 1, because it is both a different medium and off site.
The fact that you can automatically sync remotely is a big bonus too, because off-site backups historically have a problem where they fall out of date without active attention. For instance, if you have a tape backup system stored in a warehouse across town, those tapes are only as up-to-date as the last time you took the time to drive across town and update them. But with cloud storage, you can automatically sync your folders to keep things up to date in near real time. Plus, your traditional off-site backup is only as secured from things like natural disasters if you’re willing to travel fairly long distances to make them. Those tapes in a warehouse across town won’t survive if the entire town is hit by a natural disaster like a wildfire or flood.
For instance, maybe I make an update on my laptop, and then want to access it on my phone. Even with SyncThing, my laptop and phone won’t sync with each other unless they’re able to find each other on the same network. If I’m not on a trusted network at the time, (e.g. I’m at work on my employer’s WiFi, or traveling and using hotel WiFi) that makes syncing difficult. But with cloud storage, they can both essentially use that as a relay. My laptop updates the cloud, and then my phone pulls that update. Now both devices are up-to-date without actually needing to discover each other on a trusted network.
I’m currently (for the past 5 or six years) using a nextcloud server (remote) where I store the master. My desktop is typically where I make changes but sometimes on my mobile devices. No mater where I edit the database it gets synced. Knock on wood, but I’ve never had as issue.
You can have both and keep a local copy via export once in a while. If the cloud goes down the also most likely your bank website. If you’re talking about other types of secrets then the first sentence will apply
It’s convenient, but not much moreso than keeping the encrypted file in your google drive or whatever and pulling it down once in a while.
I’ve tried storing encrypted blobs including a keepass database on Google drive and I always end up with hundreds of conflict copies
Put the keepass database in a folder and use syncthing to sync that folder.
I just run syncthing on every device that needs my password and they all always have an up to date copy of the database.
What do you use to encrypt the files to begin with? For apps that don’t have an encrypted backup option built in.