If you scroll down on the privacy and security policy, there is a section that says they record you with audio and video while you are in their stores and parking lots and provide that to advertisers, partners, subsidiaries, and law enforcement. Your reaction to the original commenter feels a little extreme.
What you’re calling “extreme” is simply direct pushback without the usual padding people have come to expect. That padding, hedging, soft language, pretending both sides might have a point, is exactly why misinformation keeps spreading unchecked. It creates the illusion that facts are negotiable.
Now, if the goal is to gently reassure everyone and avoid discomfort, then yes, a softer tone would be more appropriate. But that approach routinely fails to correct anything. It prioritizes feelings over accuracy.
If the goal is to actually challenge bad information in a way that’s unambiguous and difficult to misinterpret, then a firmer tone is not only justified, it’s necessary.
You don’t have to like the delivery. But dismissing it as “extreme” avoids engaging with the actual issue, whether the claim being challenged holds up. If it doesn’t, then tone becomes a secondary concern.
The reason I responded at all was because I looked up what he was talking about because anytime someone makes a wild claim supported by a poor source it tends to raise a few red flags.
I don’t mince words and I don’t play it soft.
It is a clear sign of the times when clear pushback on a wild ass claim is met with “your comment is so extreme.” It should be so as to ensure the validity of what I’m trying to say.
If there was more “extreme” out there my country wouldn’t be the utter maga shit hole it is now.
Every single retail store in the known first world does this. They have cameras in their stores that record video and audio. They collate data about sales and if you have an account they’ll link it to your name.
I don’t know what part of the world you’re from but here in the states we have a chain called Kroger and if you want discounts you got to put your phone number into their system. That tracks everything that you do for marketing purposes.
I have not read Krogers security and privacy policy, but if Kroger was recording me without my consent and providing that to advertisers I would like to know. So I appreciate the initial commenter bringing this to our attention. Also even if this behavior is prevalent, I don’t think it should be dismissed.
in select Texas stores we may collect biometric information such as a facial recognition data, when you enter our stores for security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We provide notice at the point of entry in locations where we collect biometric information.
So, only in Texas and theyre supposedly not trying to hide it ? at least for facial recognition. ALPR isn’t specifically mentioned in Kroger’s privacy policy, although this line implies it’s not entirely off the table
Sensory data such as CCTV recordings from our facilities or premises or photos. Some of our cameras may capture license plate data for
security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute
shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We may record your voice when you contact our customer service centers.
If you scroll down on the privacy and security policy, there is a section that says they record you with audio and video while you are in their stores and parking lots and provide that to advertisers, partners, subsidiaries, and law enforcement. Your reaction to the original commenter feels a little extreme.
In addition to my first comment response.
What you’re calling “extreme” is simply direct pushback without the usual padding people have come to expect. That padding, hedging, soft language, pretending both sides might have a point, is exactly why misinformation keeps spreading unchecked. It creates the illusion that facts are negotiable.
Now, if the goal is to gently reassure everyone and avoid discomfort, then yes, a softer tone would be more appropriate. But that approach routinely fails to correct anything. It prioritizes feelings over accuracy.
If the goal is to actually challenge bad information in a way that’s unambiguous and difficult to misinterpret, then a firmer tone is not only justified, it’s necessary. You don’t have to like the delivery. But dismissing it as “extreme” avoids engaging with the actual issue, whether the claim being challenged holds up. If it doesn’t, then tone becomes a secondary concern.
I find it an extremely response without ensuring what you say is correct. Context matters.
The reason I responded at all was because I looked up what he was talking about because anytime someone makes a wild claim supported by a poor source it tends to raise a few red flags.
I don’t mince words and I don’t play it soft.
It is a clear sign of the times when clear pushback on a wild ass claim is met with “your comment is so extreme.” It should be so as to ensure the validity of what I’m trying to say.
If there was more “extreme” out there my country wouldn’t be the utter maga shit hole it is now.
Every single retail store in the known first world does this. They have cameras in their stores that record video and audio. They collate data about sales and if you have an account they’ll link it to your name.
I don’t know what part of the world you’re from but here in the states we have a chain called Kroger and if you want discounts you got to put your phone number into their system. That tracks everything that you do for marketing purposes.
This has been going on since the dawn of retail.
What the person above is describing isn’t that.
I have not read Krogers security and privacy policy, but if Kroger was recording me without my consent and providing that to advertisers I would like to know. So I appreciate the initial commenter bringing this to our attention. Also even if this behavior is prevalent, I don’t think it should be dismissed.
Just out of curiosity I did check
Kroger’s Privacy Policy
So, only in Texas and theyre supposedly not trying to hide it ? at least for facial recognition. ALPR isn’t specifically mentioned in Kroger’s privacy policy, although this line implies it’s not entirely off the table