Sorry, I misread diplomatic for democratic, but my point still stands.
I remember the first time I read about the Rwandan genocide and the UN’s voluntary and conscious inaction. It genuinely made me feel sick to my stomach.
Situations like Ukraine and Palestine/Gaza make me think about that again.
The UN used to be involved in peacekeeping. The problem is that the world is more divided than it was before. UN peacekeepers used to patrol Gaza. They defended South Korea.
As it is now, the US has completely removed most funding from the UN. Even if the deliberative bodies wanted to be more involved in world conflicts, they don’t have the funding anymore to do so. Trump is trying to strangle the UN to make room for his dictator council.
Honestly, I don’t think the vetoes are the main issue. In international diplomacy/law, enforceability rules discussions. If all the small countries vote to prevent the US-Iran war and intervene against the US, good luck enforcing it. The vetoes just reflect this reality.
The UN helps coordinate where there is a will to cooperate, but it can’t govern the world, whether veto power exists or not. What could be done to improve this I am not sure, but it is not as simple as removing the veto.
I realize that I’m butting into a discussion that has little to do with my own world view, but you realize this line of inquiry is useless, don’t you?
If we’re talking about whether the U.N. has any power, then either they do and it’s a shame they’re not using it, or they don’t and so they’re kind of irrelevant.
If we’re just talking about whether you or I are going to hell, like, I really don’t give a shit. Maybe I will.
I believe the UN is relevant and has power on some levels. When a few million people want to kill another few million, it depends a lot on how much the member states are willing to do.
From a certain level of conflict, they become irrelevant because they don’t hold any hard power. But I don’t see how that makes them complicit
there is only one instance of the word “democratic” and it’s you saying it. He didn’t edit his post. Why are you so hell bent against the UN?
Sorry, I misread diplomatic for democratic, but my point still stands.
I remember the first time I read about the Rwandan genocide and the UN’s voluntary and conscious inaction. It genuinely made me feel sick to my stomach.
Situations like Ukraine and Palestine/Gaza make me think about that again.
At some point, inaction becomes complicity.
The UN used to be involved in peacekeeping. The problem is that the world is more divided than it was before. UN peacekeepers used to patrol Gaza. They defended South Korea.
As it is now, the US has completely removed most funding from the UN. Even if the deliberative bodies wanted to be more involved in world conflicts, they don’t have the funding anymore to do so. Trump is trying to strangle the UN to make room for his dictator council.
Honestly, I don’t think the vetoes are the main issue. In international diplomacy/law, enforceability rules discussions. If all the small countries vote to prevent the US-Iran war and intervene against the US, good luck enforcing it. The vetoes just reflect this reality.
The UN helps coordinate where there is a will to cooperate, but it can’t govern the world, whether veto power exists or not. What could be done to improve this I am not sure, but it is not as simple as removing the veto.
Would you consider yourself complicit?
Unironically? Sure.
I realize that I’m butting into a discussion that has little to do with my own world view, but you realize this line of inquiry is useless, don’t you?
If we’re talking about whether the U.N. has any power, then either they do and it’s a shame they’re not using it, or they don’t and so they’re kind of irrelevant.
If we’re just talking about whether you or I are going to hell, like, I really don’t give a shit. Maybe I will.
I believe the UN is relevant and has power on some levels. When a few million people want to kill another few million, it depends a lot on how much the member states are willing to do.
From a certain level of conflict, they become irrelevant because they don’t hold any hard power. But I don’t see how that makes them complicit
Wait until you learn about the UN’s role in the Korean war.
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why is the UN so hell bent against OP?