I tried Librewolf for a while and found it to be a bit too much for me when all I really want is Firefox without AI. The privacy options are probably great but not for me.
Just installed waterfox. First impression is that I am super happy to be bock to the previous Firefox theme - it takes less space and looks nicer in my opinion. Seems promising. Thanks for the recommendation! :)
Yeah, I returned to FireFox after the latest release because of the kill switch. Still I’m uncomfortable with using software that’s full of stuff that I hate, even if it’s disabled. This is not really rational I guess, just me being weird.
Yeah Librewolf does go really fucking hard on security/privacy to the detriment of functionality, but the are upfront with that so you shouldn’t be going in completely blind. I think Water Fox is a nice happy medium for users that don’t want to fuck around with technical stuff.
Yeah it’s all just in the GUI to enable and disable what you don’t want.
I don’t get what people are complaining about with LibreWolf being “too hard”. Like it’s 1 minute clicking through menus and you’re done. 5 minutes if you need to read and search things up real quick.
But LibreWolf, ublock installed by default, and then set up containers. Just pure bliss.
That was almost certainly YouTube breaking itself. They do a lot of public A-B testing without notifying the user of anything, even if it could break functionality.
The chances of Librewolf breaking, and updating in 24 hours is basically zero. Especially if you’re on Windows since it doesn’t update itself, you have to choose to install the separate updater application when you install Librewolf, otherwise it just doesn’t update.
LibreWolf is always based on the latest version of Firefox. Updates usually come within three days from each upstream stable release, at times even the same day. Unless problems arise, we always try to release often and in a timely manner.
It should however be noted that LibreWolf does not have auto-update capabilities, and therefore it relies on package managers or users to apply them.
To be fair, YouTube is a giant piece of shit. On mobile, IronFox and Firefox are terrible with it, but switching to Chrome and everything loads instantly.
We all know Google is purposely slowing down non-chrome browsers.
Maybe, but if you want Librewolf but less extreme, that’s what Waterfox is for. May as well just install that and avoid the 5 minute search. And this is coming from a long time Librewolf user.
It only breaks sites because RFP is on by default and some greedy sites dont like RFP. You can just turn it off and use a good user agent mask (if you care about fingerprinting)
Librewolf is exactly the same browser with all the security features dialed to 11 and all the AI removed.
And it breaks sooo many sites.
Waterfox, is Firefox that just works.
I tried Librewolf for a while and found it to be a bit too much for me when all I really want is Firefox without AI. The privacy options are probably great but not for me.
Just installed waterfox. First impression is that I am super happy to be bock to the previous Firefox theme - it takes less space and looks nicer in my opinion. Seems promising. Thanks for the recommendation! :)
The latest Firefox release added a button that does exactly what you want. Turns off AI everywhere.
Yeah, I returned to FireFox after the latest release because of the kill switch. Still I’m uncomfortable with using software that’s full of stuff that I hate, even if it’s disabled. This is not really rational I guess, just me being weird.
Yeah Librewolf does go really fucking hard on security/privacy to the detriment of functionality, but the are upfront with that so you shouldn’t be going in completely blind. I think Water Fox is a nice happy medium for users that don’t want to fuck around with technical stuff.
It might be easier to soften Librewolf than harden Firefox, but fair point.
If you’re a relatively normal user and you still want to use LibreWolf, I would recommend:
Most of this is easy to find, especially thanks to the LibreWolf menu
Yeah it’s all just in the GUI to enable and disable what you don’t want.
I don’t get what people are complaining about with LibreWolf being “too hard”. Like it’s 1 minute clicking through menus and you’re done. 5 minutes if you need to read and search things up real quick.
But LibreWolf, ublock installed by default, and then set up containers. Just pure bliss.
For us, sure. For the average Joe who doesn’t know about the side effects of fingerprinting, not so much.
It broke youtube for me yesterday and mind you I’m a web developer and I didn’t know what broke it exactly to turn it on/off.
It fixed it self today though.
That was almost certainly YouTube breaking itself. They do a lot of public A-B testing without notifying the user of anything, even if it could break functionality.
The chances of Librewolf breaking, and updating in 24 hours is basically zero. Especially if you’re on Windows since it doesn’t update itself, you have to choose to install the separate updater application when you install Librewolf, otherwise it just doesn’t update.
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/librewolf-winupdater
https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/
Yeah I agree it was probably a/b testing since I use ublock origin as well so I’m use to this kind of stuff.
But the point I’m trying to make that I didn’t know at that time librewolf would have settings turned on that could break some websites.
To be fair, YouTube is a giant piece of shit. On mobile, IronFox and Firefox are terrible with it, but switching to Chrome and everything loads instantly.
We all know Google is purposely slowing down non-chrome browsers.
Maybe, but if you want Librewolf but less extreme, that’s what Waterfox is for. May as well just install that and avoid the 5 minute search. And this is coming from a long time Librewolf user.
I just enable canvas on sites that need it.
Thats the only part of RFP that I find problematic.
It only breaks sites because RFP is on by default and some greedy sites dont like RFP. You can just turn it off and use a good user agent mask (if you care about fingerprinting)
https://xkcd.com/2501/
Wait, it does? I’ve not had site issues with either.
It can cause issues with default settings on the occasional site.
Since I had it on hand, here's a screenshot of what I encountered when playing Jackbox with friends. All images would look like this.
unfortunately forks depend on FF, and chrome to survive.