• artyom@piefed.social
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    7 hours ago

    Again I ask, if there is no permit, how will the utilities know you are in compliance with this law?

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      7 hours ago

      You are required to notify your utilities that you’ll be operating a direct plugged small solar PV installation, that’s it. They can’t forbid you from doing this.

      The utilities don’t monitor compliance, the manufacturer is.

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        6 hours ago

        So it sounds like you’re saying there is no way? And therein lies the problem.

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          The certification on the product shows that it’s safe to use in grid-tie. What the fuck are you on about? Are you just being intentionally an obtuse pain in the ass?

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            Yeah, really weird. It seems like they had some kind of agenda or point to make, but they’re going about it a very strange way.

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            6 hours ago

            Are you a fucking moron? What’s to stop anyone from installing an uncertified product?

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                  3 hours ago

                  And things that are regulated are regulated.

                  That’s the point.

                  What is the point? I mean, truly, what is it that you’re trying to convey in this thread?

                  Do us all a favor and use a few sentences to explain that your point actually is here because clearly you’re trying to make a point but you’re going about it in a very strange way.

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                    And things that are regulated are regulated.

                    Regulated = legal. This is neither.

                    I’ve already explained my point in great detail, several times. The utility is in the right to be concerned about worker safety when people are legally allowed to connect unpermitted potentially unsafe equipment to the grid.

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              The world is built around the idea that people follow the rules. If you plug in an uncertified device, you are breaking the law. It’s as simple as that.

              You realize you could fucking plug ANYTHING into electrical systems now? How many people make Widowmaker cords for generators and back feed the fucking grid during outages? This is not some new problem.

              If you’re found fucking around, you find out with a big ass fine/jail. That’s how it works.

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                If you plug in an uncertified device, you are breaking the law. It’s as simple as that.

                Except it’s not that simple, because it’s not illegal.

                You realize you could fucking plug ANYTHING into electrical systems now?

                You realize that’s illegal?

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              6 hours ago

              What’s to stop anyone from installing a panel without a licensed reviewer taking a look?

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          5 hours ago

          By now over 1.2 million people in Germany have registered (and even more have not registered) their legal small scale solar system and are producing their own electricity (mine covers 2/3rds of my total demand).

          If you think that’s a problem, be my guest.