• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Wanna know how to pressure the DNC to pick a candidate you like? Go fucking vote for them in the primary!

    Typically, the primaries get 1/10th the turnout of the general election. That means that a very small number of people can sway the primary. Go stump for your candidate. Make phone calls, talk to your family and friends and community, explain why your candidate is the better choice.

    The lack of a primary in 2024 was fucking awful, but guess what? Chances are, there is a primary going on for your state right now, get to work!

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      8 hours ago

      Try telling that to someone who supported Bernie, but before you do that you might want to go back and refresh youself on what happened. The DNC is a diseased carcass, change isn’t possible.

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        8 hours ago

        Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

        I know what the results are, but I need to know that you know before we discuss further.

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          Do you really think the vote results of a corrupt election somehow make that election not corrupt? How are we still having this stupid ass argument in 2026?

          I guess Putin really does have 88% support in Russia. That’s what the vote says after all, so it must be true.

          • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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            7 hours ago

            Are you saying that Bernie got more votes in the primary than Hillary, and the DNC manipulated the votes to make Hillary win?

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              No, I’m saying the election itself was corrupted in order to feed the victory to Hillary. Superdelegates, DNC-run smear campaigns, election rigging by limiting debates to reduce the visibility of the outsider. Accusations of sexism simply for not supporting the candidate with a vagina.

              Manipulating votes is not the only way to rig an election, you can do a lot just by manipulating the voters themselves. The DNC admitted to this, they didn’t have to run a fair election. So stop pretending the end result of a blatantly corrupt process justifies the process.

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                7 hours ago

                Alright, you pretty much posted the same argument I was expecting from the other two, but just taking a little detour through the possibility that you thought the votes were altered.

                Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

                I need to know that you know before we can discuss further.

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                  7 hours ago

                  No, you infantilizing asshole. The fact that you’re still pushing this stupid game means you clearly don’t intend to argue in good faith. The fact that even after making me explain a very simple and straightforward statement you still think the vote results are relevant to a discussion about the corruption of the 2016 primaries means you’re just yet another liberal apologetic. If you’re unwilling to grapple with the fact that the DNC is a corrupt organization, we’re done here.

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                    It’s really amazing that out of the many people who want to talk about how Bernie should have won the 2016 primary, none of them are willing to post the results, where he lost by a significant number of votes.

                    It’s almost like they think the less popular candidate should have been democratically selected.

                    Show me an election where the less popular candidate won, and I’ll agree with you that it’s totally bullshit, and the system was rigged, and needs to be reworked.

                    I’m always open to discuss further, but you will need to confirm that you know the results of the 2016 DNC primary.

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        but before you do that you might want to go back and refresh youself on what happened.

        He lost? Yeah, fuck primaries forever!

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      did bernie lose because people didn’t vote for him? or did he lose because the democrats establishment push him out?

      for what you said to be true, the democrats need to abolish the superdelegates, which they won’t do.

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        8 hours ago

        Same thing applies to you.

        Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.