• OldManWithACane@lemmy.zip
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      I hate to be the Akshually guy but they’re truly not laws. They’re directives for the federal agencies under the control of the executive branch. They have the " force of law " (assuming they’re aligned with the constitutional authority of the president) but they’re not laws.

      They don’t create crimes, do budgets, or override congress.

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          law is the profession of specifics… it’s not sophistry; it’s technicality

          just like trump is not a convicted rapist: he was convicted of sexual assault

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              the law is not intended to deceive. the words are complex by necessity, but complexity is not sophistry

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                i think i see the problem. i think you’re an Aussie. in your legal system that might actually be true. i’m in statesia. in a past life i wrote a few entries in the Code of Federal Regulations, if that gives you some guess to the quality of the thinking in there. looking for sense in the government is the quickest path to insanity

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          I’m not though. They’re truly different things and I promise I’m not arguing in bad faith.

          The differences I mentioned are material, especially that an executive order cannot arbitrarily criminalize something.

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            i think it’s that we’re arguing from different perspectives. for most people, a law is a regulation is a procedure is an executive order. they all carry about the same weight. when you actually deal with legal specifics the differences matter but to most folk they’re cinnamon rolls.

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          We gonna find out but they’ve also just straight up stolen cash from the government so its gonna be fun*, fam.

          *fun as in lets cut the wire on a bomb and hope we successfully defused it.