Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts
Interesting contrast to the church itself, which has the capacity of turning people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been painstakingly processed for centuries.
I don’t know about the West, but a lot of Catholic community in SEAsia (excluding PH) are not blindly following the Pope.
I know a lot of people in the community instantly criticizing any form corruption or negativity.
Even our mass regularly ask community to be more rationale in thinking.
I’m American ex catholic and yeah that was my childhood church. That said we also have a lot of people who convert to catholicism for the aesthetics and to crusade larp, and one of them insisted on arguing with the previous pope about basic doctrine as the old man was dying…
So yeah, you’re supposed to listen to the pope but nobody does.
Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.
Yes the Apostle Peter was the first Pope. Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, the Evangelists etc are are offshoots that for one reason or another rejected the Pope and Canon Law.
Eastern Orthodoxy is not an offshoot of Catholicism. They were both the same church until the schism, when they excommunicated each other.
The Pope traces his apostolic succession back to Peter, but the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox church trace theirs back to the other apostles. Originally, the various patriarchates were co-equal, until the Roman church began stylizing itself as the “first among equals” citing some obscure passage where Jesus had a bromance moment with Peter.
The Roman church was never in a position of authority over the other patriarchates, and when the Pope began trying to assert himself that way, the other churches began distancing themselves. The actual schism happened when that tension shattered over different interpretations of one line in the Nicean Creed.
If anything, the Roman Catholic church is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy, which maintained its Ecumenical Council among the various patriarchates throughout its history.
Calling Eastern Orthodoxy an offshoot of Roman Catholicism is a very catholo-centric and misinformed take. And citing Canon Law is silly, because Rome strayed further from the original Canons than Eastern Orthodoxy ever did.
It’s definitely very arbitrary! There’s plenty of other divisions within Christianity, but I’ve found it’s the more radical evangelical sect of Christianity (read: the ones in the White House) that claim Catholics aren’t Christians the hardest. I
Aren’t there multiple? Besides the ancient rift between Eastern and Western Catholic churches, there are also sedevacantists that seem focused on just being antisemites still (Mel Gibson’s dad had his own pseudo-Catholic church).
Interesting contrast to the church itself, which has the capacity of turning people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been painstakingly processed for centuries.
They don’t appreciate their fanbase being taken away
Martin Luther typed these words
Passive consumers of overthought thoughts?
Passive consumers of poorly thought thoughts.
I don’t know about the West, but a lot of Catholic community in SEAsia (excluding PH) are not blindly following the Pope. I know a lot of people in the community instantly criticizing any form corruption or negativity.
Even our mass regularly ask community to be more rationale in thinking.
I’m American ex catholic and yeah that was my childhood church. That said we also have a lot of people who convert to catholicism for the aesthetics and to crusade larp, and one of them insisted on arguing with the previous pope about basic doctrine as the old man was dying…
So yeah, you’re supposed to listen to the pope but nobody does.
Pretty sure that’s their whole game. More projection, I guess. sigh
Those damned Catholics.
Signed, a citizen of the culturally Protestant US, where most of us don’t even consider Catholics to be Christian
Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.
Yes the Apostle Peter was the first Pope. Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, the Evangelists etc are are offshoots that for one reason or another rejected the Pope and Canon Law.
Eastern Orthodoxy is not an offshoot of Catholicism. They were both the same church until the schism, when they excommunicated each other.
The Pope traces his apostolic succession back to Peter, but the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox church trace theirs back to the other apostles. Originally, the various patriarchates were co-equal, until the Roman church began stylizing itself as the “first among equals” citing some obscure passage where Jesus had a bromance moment with Peter.
The Roman church was never in a position of authority over the other patriarchates, and when the Pope began trying to assert himself that way, the other churches began distancing themselves. The actual schism happened when that tension shattered over different interpretations of one line in the Nicean Creed.
If anything, the Roman Catholic church is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy, which maintained its Ecumenical Council among the various patriarchates throughout its history.
Calling Eastern Orthodoxy an offshoot of Roman Catholicism is a very catholo-centric and misinformed take. And citing Canon Law is silly, because Rome strayed further from the original Canons than Eastern Orthodoxy ever did.
It’s definitely very arbitrary! There’s plenty of other divisions within Christianity, but I’ve found it’s the more radical evangelical sect of Christianity (read: the ones in the White House) that claim Catholics aren’t Christians the hardest. I
There’s also a big rift within Catholicism that most people outside of it don’t hear about much.
Aren’t there multiple? Besides the ancient rift between Eastern and Western Catholic churches, there are also sedevacantists that seem focused on just being antisemites still (Mel Gibson’s dad had his own pseudo-Catholic church).
Well, raising above passive consumer is called heresy there.
Yeah, he’s dissing the competition.